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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    It's a website anyone can sign up for. Now to find out our personal contact info - that should take a warrant. Reading a public website? doubt it needs one.
    It doesn't. Anything you post to the public is public domain. What you write here is no more or less private than if you had written an editorial to a newspaper.

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel
    What would be the value in monitoring a site like this tho? I really don't think there is anything to be gained
    Like this one? Not much. But others? Certainly. When Boko Haram decided to pledge to ISIL, for example, the first public indications were on an African Social media site.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Anyone can read it, no doubt about that. What would be the value in monitoring a site like this tho? I really don't think there is anything to be gained.
    Nor do I. I suspect that when somebody here goes off talking about when it would be kosher to murder government officials, they are simply trying to show off for fellow extremists and trying to gain Brownie points with their fellow fanatics. They are no more serious than a whoopee cushion.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Its not only you and me, its a threat to the general masses. And actually, it is somewhat of a threat to the establishment because they need some protection from each other.
    Yeah, to society, everybody is what I meant.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That is true. But don't you think they are wasting their time if they are monitoring a site like this?
    If all they're looking for is people that might be plotting some sort of violence, joining the Islamic State, planning domestic jihad or something, yes. But keeping an eye on people free from the encumbrances of partisan myopia, people that might be a threat to the status quo, two party corruption, probably not. Such lists could come in handy.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If all they're looking for is people that might be plotting some sort of violence, joining the Islamic State, planning domestic jihad or something, yes. But keeping an eye on people free from the encumbrances of partisan myopia, people that might be a threat to the status quo, two party corruption, probably not. Such lists could come in handy.
    If so, that is a terrible indictment on the state of our democracy. That means it will be difficult from keeping those with power from misusing such.

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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    This is a public forum and therefore not subject to the fourth amendment. Sure but I've never seen anything posited here that I've even been alarmed over. That said, I've been on anther forum based overseas where people were sympathetic to Al Qaeda and in attempts to understand them I would ask them questions and sometimes argue, I'm sure I have an FBI/NSA file.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    I read somewhere a few years back that they actually insert posters as well to jostle things. I don't why they shouldn't read or even participate, even if that participation has a dishonest front face. All of us could, who knows for sure if some of us aren't just playing parts on here? We don't, we can't know.

    I was at a one forum where a woman managed to convince everyone she was a lawyer, giving out advise, being asked advise. Turned out someone met her and found out she was really a high school dropout with schizophrenia. She was convincing most of the time. There near the end, she began to loose it, and that's why someone tracked her down, but gosh, 9 years she pulled it off. It'd be nothing for someone to do a Stephen Colbert in a forum. And for an agent trained to do so, we'd never even suspect.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Anything beyond casual examination, like use of computer programs to parse out trends and patterns, should require a warrant. A casual encounter with police is fine, but longterm surveillance requires a warrant.
    No. The police are allowed to increase surveillance in an area, just not target a specific person for that increased surveillance without a warrant. This would be an area, not a particular person unless you can show that they are doing it only to a specific site rather than many different types of sites.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If all they're looking for is people that might be plotting some sort of violence, joining the Islamic State, planning domestic jihad or something, yes. But keeping an eye on people free from the encumbrances of partisan myopia, people that might be a threat to the status quo, two party corruption, probably not. Such lists could come in handy.
    So long as the list contains nothing more that what the general public or members could choose to accumulate, I don't see the problem. If they are gaining access to our non-public, non-member information without a warrant, then I see that as the tipping point.
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    Re: Should the U. S. Government Monitor DP For Potential Threats?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What do you think?
    Yes of course, they are most certainly already doing this on a daily basis. Especially in the conservative posters here are held under high scrutiny of course by Obama and his liberal cronies

    No but seriously. I think that all message boards foreign and domestic have to at least be macro monitored to identify whether or not a lot of traffic comes with known countries that have many supporters of Isis and muslim terrorism. If websites are visited numerously out of areas under control of Isis or Boko Haram, then the US government would be insane not to monitor that even more closely and they can only find that if they have a macro surveillance of all websites to begin with.
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