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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Funny, science does it all the time....
    Fine. So direct me to the scientific "love equation" that proves what people already know, i.e. that love exists.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Fine. So direct me to the scientific "love equation" that proves what people already know, i.e. that love exists.
    You are aware that we can detect love with MRIs, right? It is entirely measurable via scientific means.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You are aware that we can detect love with MRIs, right? It is entirely measurable via scientific means.
    Sure. So if love can be measured, what is the "love" unit of value? Where is that love equation I asked for earlier? What is a hug equivalent to?
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Funny, science does it all the time, there are mathematical models for all kinds of things that we cannot study in reality.
    One more thing. Mathematics is a construct used as a link to the physical world, so even if you delve into the realm of, say, theoretical astrophysics, math is being utilized in an attempt to explain some aspect of the physical universe that we can't currently see or measure empirically. Honestly, good luck on any attempt to empirically quantify love.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You are aware that we can detect love with MRIs, right? It is entirely measurable via scientific means.
    lulz

    They can detect 'hatred', also. So much for science.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Sure. So if love can be measured, what is the "love" unit of value? Where is that love equation I asked for earlier? What is a hug equivalent to?
    Since it's clear you didn't even bother to do a Google search and find out what you were talking about, why don't you go do that?
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    One more thing. Mathematics is a construct used as a link to the physical world, so even if you delve into the realm of, say, theoretical astrophysics, math is being utilized in an attempt to explain some aspect of the physical universe that we can't currently see or measure empirically. Honestly, good luck on any attempt to empirically quantify love.
    One of many. You'll ignore it, of course.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296, 650]

    Crazy people don't have rights to guns and crazy countries don't have rights to nukes

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Sure, Iran has the right to do whatever they want. They are a soverign nation. We, also have the right to get together with our allies and make it difficult for them to acquire nukes, simple as that. In the end, its not what you have the right to do, it is what you have the ability to do. Rights, only restrict those who abide strictly by them while others do whatever they want. It only works when everyone agrees to respect them.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I already told you everyone knows love exists. I don't need to see an MRI or conduct a Google search to confirm that. What I'm questioning is whether love can be empirically measured based on some objective standard, like a cubic meter of water at a particular temperature in degrees Celsius. I mean, I read your article, but nowhere did I see it mention anything about a "love unit." I'm not going to say it's impossible, but I've seen no evidence anyone has successfully done this.

    My contention is love is an emotion that can't be quantified because of its subjective nature; no one can state how much love they possess at any given time, but then they know love when they see it. They also know its converse, hate. I'd say Hitler exterminating six million Jews or whatever it was pretty much redlines the hate meter for most folks. But it's not my job to prove your contention. If you've got something to show other than some pretty brain pictures then show it.
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