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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Containing it is not a solution, human rights and democracy is. That you support addressing a symptom with genocide is disgusting.
    Tsk, tsk. You know I don't support genocide.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Agreed. However, Hussein poised a unique risk justifying the first Gulf War, when he should have been eliminated - but the government otherwise left intact. The second Gulf War was a mistake.
    Well, we're closer with that then we've been.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, we're closer with that then we've been.
    What an absurd statement. What Gulf War? Obama just surrendered for the USA. He has decided that we lost.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    I don't think they have a right to nukes, but with that said we sure do not have the right to force them to do what we want when it comes to nukes.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    If Israel does, then so does Iran.
    Then so does ISIS, the Palestinians, Columbia and Haiti. Definitely Somolia.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What an absurd statement. What Gulf War? Obama just surrendered for the USA. He has decided that we lost.
    That makes no sense. I was telling you that you and I were closer than we have been, and you said this????!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    that depends...the question is if they had one who would they give it to to cause harm to the west/Christians ... under the table...I doubt if they would openly shoot one of or take responsibility for a blast/bombing
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Obama surrendered what??? suddam is dead he must have surrendered the oil????,,the Iraq real estate??? ...ohhh im sorry Iraq peoples freedom...is that what your talking about...
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In most of history the ends do in fact justify the means. And you can say the above changes nothing, but that's just keeping your head in the sand.
    No they really don't. Winning doesn't make that so either. And I say it because it's true.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That logic doesn't work. Japan has a massive military and massive storehouse of weapons and aircraft, with plans for a genocidal fight the ends ultimately to Japan's mountains where their reserve armaments and aircraft was kept. They had a million troops in China to bring back.

    It was not just a question of how many hundreds of thousands of Americans might have been killed, but how many millions upon millions of Japanese would be killed in the fight, with starvation and disease likely killing even more Japanese.

    The "terrorism" would have been killing Japanese across the entire nation of Japan by the millions upon millions.

    The two atomic bombing sent an exact message. The Emperor could not defend his palace or capital against an atomic bombing. We specifically did NOT bomb Tokyo NOR the largest Japanese population centers. If we killed the Emperor who could surrender? But if he wouldn't, that is exactly what would have happened. Him and the center of Japanese government would have been obliterated.

    The usage of the atomic bombs was specifically 1.) to save American lives, 2.) to save Japanese lives and 3.) not have to kill the Emperor of Japan to facilitate a surrender. It worked exactly as hoped - saving countless millions of lives.
    That's just not so. Terrorist killed some 3,000 people on 9/11 and not deaths across the nation. One attack. And it was a terrorist attack.

    And all three on your list are 1) debatable as to how true they were both as reasons and as valid reasons, and 2) don't change that it was terror used to bring abut a political objective against civilians and not military targets.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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