"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"
Cicero Marcus Tullius
according to some friends USA has the right to nuke any nation but iran doesnt . )
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK
didn't Iran sign the non-proliferation pact?
I'm not all that concerned about nukes -I am concerned about Iranian regional hegemony..
How about an actually relevant document which was the minutes of a meeting that took place on June 18, 1945 to discuss Japan: http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistle...1.pdf#zoom=100.
Note on page 4, Eisenhower did have his opinion on the idea that "air power alone was not sufficient to put the Japanese out of the war" meaning that an invasion was necessary. The relevant leaders were in the room, except for Arnold who was well represented by Eaker. Eisenhower was not present.
So you may have disagreed with the decision and even how it was carried out, but it was an attack on military targets (which you stopped saying that it was many posts ago) surrounded by a lot of people and without the benefit of YOUR hindsight, Truman made a decision that he stood by. In my own opinion, Truman dropped 1 atomic bomb, the Japanese leaders dropped the 2nd one by not surrendering sooner. Unconditional Surrender were the terms and they were well known. The same terms were applied to Italy and Germany and you object to those terms with a very weak statement basically to the effect of: "they were preparing to surrender".
It was interesting in the report that the bomb on Hiroshima had the same effect of about 220 full bomb loads of B-29's. One bomb was clearly demoralizing, although it was interesting in that same report that the opinions of those far outside the bombed cities, it was less impactful on morale.
I object to Iran getting nuclear weapons based on the statements of their leaders who seem to regularly talk about wiping people off the face of the earth. Generally the Iranians are good people and without the dogma of the religious leaders of that country, I would probably not object.
Oh, and I referenced Iran most recently in post 589.
Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy
But only the complete idiots* would throw away their guns with Charles Manson living across the street!
The problem with these "advocacy groups" is that many of them are *complete idiots and others are simply far-left advocates that are more concerned about the best interests of America's enemies_as well as advocacy groups here and across the world.
The good guys absolutely must maintain a high state of preparedness for every known contingency until all threats to world peace have been permanently neutralized!
Those "threats" should be defined as: Any person, group, or nation that initiates violence and/or fails to recognize the right of another to exist, be secure in their property, and live in peace!
And any person, group, or nation that demonstrates such a propensity by either threat or violence, should be denied all future access to or development of military hardware, particularly WMDs!
And among the worst cases that refuse to comply; some might even forfeit their own right to exist!
Evil is very easy to detect and should never be tolerated by people who are serious about world peace!
When a crime is ignored ~ it becomes flagrant;
When a crime is rewarded ~ it becomes epidemic:
No Amnesty No Exception
I regret the U.S. was put into this position but I support Truman's difficult decision. And if you are going to impugn Truman's documents, then don't be disingenuous by quoting those documents when you are able to pluck out a quote you agree with.
Japan has become a respected member of the world community in part because of the support and encouragement of the U.S. during the post war period. You can sit back in your easy chair shouting atrocity but in the context of the time before 6 August 1945, dropping the bomb was viewed as saving more US lives. 9 August was preventable by the Japanese--even you haven't disputed that.
And when I choose to support or disagree with something, you will have MY words stating that fact.
This sentence should be have been taken as seriously as the statements by the leaders in Tehran.