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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
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    Yes and sometimes.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

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    Yes and sometimes.
    Always. But belligerents and other interests sabotage peace efforts.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Always. But belligerents and other interests sabotage peace efforts.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It's called human nature.
    There's much about men's nature that needs to be controlled.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Not very.

    I spent twenty years in the Navy - and yes, that included loading stuff on board ships. Even on a relatively small ship, there's many, many places to hide something the size of a nuclear warhead. Even the crudest of portable atomic bombs - the size of Little Boy or Fat Man - are easily loaded on a tramp steamer.
    And it wouldn't get past a geiger counter within 10 miles.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I heard someone make the argument that Obama doesn't believe the US has any rightful role in preventing or hindering Iran from developing and maintaining nuclear weapons. I don't know that that's true, and nobody but the President can answer to what he believes, so I'll ask what you believe. If Iran has the ability, does it have the "right" to nuclear weapons? (By "right", I mean the U.S. and other nations would not be unjustified in trying to prevent it.)

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    Sovereign nations have the right to do whatever they want. Hence the name.
    However, other sovereign nations have the right to protect themselves, especially against rogue nations. That includes the right to deny Iran the right to the aforementioned weapons.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by HK.227 View Post
    Sovereign nations have the right to do whatever they want. Hence the name.
    However, other sovereign nations have the right to protect themselves, especially against rogue nations. That includes the right to deny Iran the right to the aforementioned weapons.
    How many nations has Iran attacked in the past decade? None? How many have we attacked? Two? Three? I'd say the only rogue nation around is the United States, doesn't that mean Iran ought to have the right to protect themselves against us?
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    How many nations has Iran attacked in the past decade? None? How many have we attacked? Two? Three? I'd say the only rogue nation around is the United States, doesn't that mean Iran ought to have the right to protect themselves against us?
    How many times did we use nuclear weapons? How many leaders have we had that would have actively sought to use them?

    Trying to compare the foreign policy of the United States to Iran based on recent events is willfully distorting reality.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    How many times did we use nuclear weapons? How many leaders have we had that would have actively sought to use them?

    Trying to compare the foreign policy of the United States to Iran based on recent events is willfully distorting reality.
    We've used them more than any other nation on the planet. We have been engaged in more wars than pretty much any other nation around. We have funded terrorists (although we like to pretend they're "freedom fighters"). We have overthrown governments. How many countries has Iran invaded recently? How many have we? You've really got no leg to stand on.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I heard someone make the argument that Obama doesn't believe the US has any rightful role in preventing or hindering Iran from developing and maintaining nuclear weapons. I don't know that that's true, and nobody but the President can answer to what he believes, so I'll ask what you believe. If Iran has the ability, does it have the "right" to nuclear weapons? (By "right", I mean the U.S. and other nations would not be unjustified in trying to prevent it.)

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    They're a sovereign nation in middle of a continent under siege from foreign armies all over the place. Hell, several years ago its neighbor was taken down by one of the foreign armies. Would a sovereign nation not have the right to defend itself?

    Itís not to say the West doesnít have interest in preventing them from obtaining the weapons, we certainly do; particularly because we are the foreign invaders. But in theory any sovereign nation is sovereign and has the right to defense.
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