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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Does ANY country have a "right" to build, store, maintain, and/or develop nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    It's very hypocritical to say countries A,B, and C have the right, but countries G,H, and J don't.
    Especially if the "justification" for having them is "self defense".

    How does any country justify having WMD's?
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    "Stop quoting law, we carry swords!" - Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus

    Laws aren't worth the paper they're printed on if no one is going to enforce them. Guess what? Where the affairs of powerful nation states are concerned, no one does.

    Frankly, I'd argue that any law which upholds the ability of nations like Iran or North Korea to produce weapons of mass destruction is flawed, and therefore should be ignored or worked around in any way possible.
    WE enforce them on ourselves. But its not even about that. Americans believe in inherent rights which supersede the law. Life and liberty, and that goes for individuals or their groups (states).

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If Iran does get nukes I believe it will help stabilize the Middle east. No nation would attack another when both have nukes. MAD worked for us and the USSR and it should work for foes like Isreal and Iran.
    On a different note, Israel has successfully stifled the nuclear ambitions of Iraq [under Saddam] and Syria by bombing them. So far it's worked out rather well.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Your opponents arguments haven't really been that nations have a "right" to nuclear arms, it's been that it's insanely hypocritical for us to try to enforce massive sanctions and even threaten war over something we have and refuse to give up. It's not really surprising why Iran feels the need for nuclear weapons. We have them completely surrounded by dozens of bases and actively threaten them.

    This isn't about world peace, it's about America trying to ensure its dominance. We have more nukes than every other country combined, minus Russia, and we're the only nation on earth to use them against human beings. Where is our moral high ground?
    To be fair, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and a active threat to the region. They are in violation of any number of treaties.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Does ANY country have a "right" to build, store, maintain, and/or develop nuclear weapons and delivery systems?

    It's very hypocritical to say countries A,B, and C have the right, but countries G,H, and J don't.
    Especially if the "justification" for having them is "self defense".

    How does any country justify having WMD's?
    Just like the police, some people can be trusted with deadly force. Some people cant.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Just like the police, some people can be trusted with deadly force. Some people cant.
    Name the ONLY country that's ever used a nuclear weapon on humans?

    Name the country that has been the most active in starting/fighting wars in the last 100 years?

    Who exactly can be trusted and who can't? And who decides such lists?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If Iran does get nukes I believe it will help stabilize the Middle east. No nation would attack another when both have nukes. MAD worked for us and the USSR and it should work for foes like Isreal and Iran.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    To be fair, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and a active threat to the region. They are in violation of any number of treaties.
    To be fair.

    The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom said:

    By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

    (audio here).

    The Washington Post reported in 2010:

    The United States has long been an exporter of terrorism, according to a secret CIA analysis released Wednesday by the Web site WikiLeaks.

    The head and special agent in charge of the FBI’s Los Angeles office said that most terror attacks are committed by our CIA and FBI.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    From a Realist perspective, they have the "right" to whatever they can get away with.

    We, in turn, have the "right" to impede them in such pursuits if it goes against our own interests.
    At the end of the day, it's really as simple as that. Iran has an agenda, and we have an agenda. Unfortunately, those agendas simply happen to be mutually incompatible.

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    what kind of interests ? not everything is about your interests in international arena I think
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    On a different note, Israel has successfully stifled the nuclear ambitions of Iraq [under Saddam] and Syria by bombing them. So far it's worked out rather well.
    It didn't work out well for Iraq. Though Israel "stifled" Saddam's WMD ambitions, Bush insisted that he still had them, and a gullible nation followed him into a senseless war, a war that cost a couple hundred thousand Iraqi lives and has left their country in ruins for a dozen years now.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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