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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Who's the world?

    I don't need you quoting scripture to me, I don't recognize its authority.

    Do you prefer a world with or without nuclear weapons.
    It doesn't matter what you prefer, it matters what is true.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    So colonialism and world domination, if done by a group (except for China, N Korea and Russia of course) is okay with you?
    As I previously stated; the United States and its Western Allies have never demonstrated a desire for world domination; which is undeniable by their actions and policies after World War I & II_

    And if by "colonialism" you're attempting to cherry pick dark historical events as evidence of past injustices by Western Civilization, then I'll have to remind you that all people, on every continent, the world over, have skeletons in their ancestral closets just as ugly_

    Those with the nuclear weapons dictate who can (Israel, Pakistan etc) and who can't (Iran) develop a nuclear weapon. I wonder what next mandate will be coming from nuclear equipped group next?
    If you are indeed referring to the United States; I would imagine their "mandates" would involve the same motivations and policies they always have_

    Which is to prevent the use, proliferation, and development of WMDs especially among savages that have expressed and even demonstrated their violent intentions_

    Consider this__Iran has already announced what its mandates will be; even as its nuclear capabilities are being developed__how bold is that Robert?!
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It doesn't matter what you prefer, it matters what is true.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Which doesn't mean that nukes don't exist in your world. Wishful thinking isn't reality. Not sure how many times I have to keep pointing this out.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Which doesn't mean that nukes don't exist in your world. Wishful thinking isn't reality. Not sure how many times I have to keep pointing this out.
    Who said there isn't nuclear weapons in the world. I believe I have demonstrated my support for nuclear eradication thoroughly here. Do you realize the biggest protest in American history was an anti nuclear weapons protest in New York City?? You think there's just two people that want to see a ban on nuclear weapons. If we let the people that say, they're here live with it, influence the day, then yeah we'll continue to have them.

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    “We support an inclusive negotiating process with civil society for a legally binding instrument prohibiting nuclear weapons.” December 2014

    Argentina “Argentina supports the efforts of the international community to move towards the negotiation of a universal legally binding instrument banning nuclear weapons.” September 2013

    Jamaica “It is with a sense of urgency that we engage in the discourse on nuclear disarmament and move towards a ban on these lethal weapons.” December 2014

    Norway “We are working along several different tracks to achieve the goal of a world without nuclear weapons. We are aiming at a genuine, total ban.” September 2011

    Peru “It is only through a prohibition on the use and possession of nuclear weapons that we will achieve elimination.” March 2013

    South Africa
    “The only way to guarantee the security that we all seek is through the total elimination of nuclear weapons and their prohibition. It is indeed an anomaly that nuclear weapons remain the only weapons of mass destruction that have yet to be subjected to a comprehensive, global prohibition.” December 2014

    Just a smidgen of the nations working for eradication.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Who said there isn't nuclear weapons in the world.
    You said in post #346: "Nukes don't exist in my world"

    There you go.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I heard someone make the argument that Obama doesn't believe the US has any rightful role in preventing or hindering Iran from developing and maintaining nuclear weapons. I don't know that that's true, and nobody but the President can answer to what he believes, so I'll ask what you believe. If Iran has the ability, does it have the "right" to nuclear weapons? (By "right", I mean the U.S. and other nations would not be unjustified in trying to prevent it.)

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    It doesn't matter whether we do or don't think that the Iranians have a right to nuclear weapons. What DOES matter is that THEY - the Iranians - believe they have a right to build their own nuclear weapons. Now with skillful use of diplomacy and deal-making, we can stop it from happening. But if we allow the Neanderthal Right (both here in America and in Israel) to run things, they'll just say "If you make them, we will bomb you"...which means all the more that the Iranians WILL make them.

    That's what's so stupid about the Right - they raise hell at the very thought of someone telling them something they don't want to hear, but they pretend that the {Insert Name of Enemy Here} will meekly say, "Okay, you're threatening to bomb us, so we'll do what you are telling us to do." It's as if in the Right's view, any 'diplomacy' that does not include bombers in the air waiting to rain destruction down on the other guy is automatically the modern-day equivalent of Chamberlain's "appeasement".
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?[W:296]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    It doesn't matter whether we do or don't think that the Iranians have a right to nuclear weapons. What DOES matter is that THEY - the Iranians - believe they have a right to build their own nuclear weapons. Now with skillful use of diplomacy and deal-making, we can stop it from happening. But if we allow the Neanderthal Right (both here in America and in Israel) to run things, they'll just say "If you make them, we will bomb you"...which means all the more that the Iranians WILL make them.

    That's what's so stupid about the Right - they raise hell at the very thought of someone telling them something they don't want to hear, but they pretend that the {Insert Name of Enemy Here} will meekly say, "Okay, you're threatening to bomb us, so we'll do what you are telling us to do." It's as if in the Right's view, any 'diplomacy' that does not include bombers in the air waiting to rain destruction down on the other guy is automatically the modern-day equivalent of Chamberlain's "appeasement".
    The problem is not that critics believe the Iranians will meekly submit, but rather that they will continue to push toward a weapon.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You said in post #346: "Nukes don't exist in my world"

    There you go.
    You don't understand that phrase!!!
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