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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but your personal convictions, no matter how sincere, have no effect on the rights of nations.
    Ok. Then neither does anyones here either. If you extend your point any further, therefore no ones opinion matters here then...


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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok. Then neither does anyones here either. If you extend your point any further, therefore no ones opinion matters here then...
    They don't, actually. That's why the better posts in this thread draw on treaty provisions and principles of international law.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They don't, actually. That's why the better posts in this thread draw on treaty provisions and principles of international law.
    So because some disagrees with the current law, therfore their opinion does not matter here on a site that is about debating politics? Why the hell are we even here then?


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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So because some disagrees with the current law, therfore their opinion does not matter here on a site that is about debating politics? Why the hell are we even here then?
    Because the principles and continuing viability of current treaties, especially the NPT, form the crux of the matter.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Because the principles and continuing viability of current treaties, especially the NPT, form the crux of the matter.
    And we cant change those treaties?


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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Just because it's not in our best interests for them to have nukes doesnt mean it's not in their best interests, realistically and theoretically.

    Just because we 'believe' we'd only use them in completely justifiable scenarios doesnt mean that's true or that such a scenario could even exist.
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    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And we cant change those treaties?
    If you believe that's the right thing to do then by all means make your case.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    If you believe that's the right thing to do then by all means make your case.
    I have. Then you dismissed it because we have treaties.


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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I have. Then you dismissed it because we have treaties.
    No. Other than shouting about nuclear weapons' immorality, how would you persuade the current nuclear weapons states to give them up?
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. Other than shouting about nuclear weapons' immorality, how would you persuade the current nuclear weapons states to give them up?
    The same way the START treaties have... Which used morality as one of the main points...


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