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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    So if it is the will of the international community that the U.S. get rid of its nuclear weapons immediately then we should do it. That sounds like what you are saying.
    If we have a global system that believably guarantees international security with the checks and balances required? Of course. Till then? No.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep, that's changing though, and Iran will probably have nukes if they ever decide they want them.
    Well Israel might attack before they could finish.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, in the world view of right wing conservative minds where victim and prey are all that play, indeed.
    LOL. It doesn't take a right wing mind to know there are people who need little motivation to destroy the innocent. What kind of mind do you think would allow them to do that?

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If we have a global system that believably guarantees international security with the checks and balances required? Of course. Till then? No.
    So since there is no (to quote you) "global system that believably guarantees international security" we should not be demanding that Iran not develop a nuclear weapon.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    It's pretty much the sentiments of most of the industrialized world; with the exceptions of Russia, China and North Korea_

    ie; Only those who view the United States as their adversary appear to believe that a nuclear capable Iran is not a threat_

    (*god usually has a policy of nonintervention and to the best of my knowledge hasn't decreed anything pertaining to nukes)

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    So colonialism and world domination, if done by a group (except for China, N Korea and Russia of course) is okay with you? Those with the nuclear weapons dictate who can (Israel, Pakistan etc) and who can't (Iran) develop a nuclear weapon. I wonder what next mandate will be coming from nuclear equipped group next?

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    War compels cruel choices. The morally preferable path was chosen.
    Your morally preferable path was chosen, if asked the Japanese might have chosen another path ...

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Best Reagan Quotes on Nuclear Weapons
    “We seek the total elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth.”
    Ronald Reagan, Inaugural Address, 1985
    “A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. The only value in our two nations possessing nuclear weapons is to make sure they will never be used. But then would it not be better to do away with them entirely?”
    Ronald Reagan, 1984 State of the Union
    “It is my fervent goal and hope…that we will some day no longer have to rely on nuclear weapons to deter aggression and assure world peace. To that end the United States is now engaged in a serious and sustained effort to negotiate major reductions in levels of offensive nuclear weapons with the ultimate goal of eliminating these weapons from the face of the earth.”
    Ronald Reagan, October 20, 1986
    “I can’t believe that this world can go on beyond our generation and on down to succeeding generations with this kind of weapon on both sides poised at each other without someday some fool or some maniac or some accident triggering the kind of war that is the end of the line for all of us. And I just think of what a sigh of relief would go up from everyone on this earth if someday–and this is what I have–my hope, way in the back of my head–is that if we start down the road to reduction, maybe one day in doing that, somebody will say, ‘Why not all the way? Let’s get rid of all these things’.”
    Ronald Reagan, May 16, 1983

    “My central arms control objective has been to reduce substantially, and ultimately to eliminate, nuclear weapons and rid the world of the nuclear threat. The prevention of the spread of nuclear explosives to additional countries is an indispensable part of our efforts to meet this objective. I intend to continue my pursuit of this goal with untiring determination and a profound sense of personal commitment.”
    Ronald Reagan, March 25, 1988 Message to Congress on NPT
    I don't challenge that the goal was stated I challenge that the U.S> ever intended to or would give up their nuclear weapons (under Reagan, now or in the future)

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Your morally preferable path was chosen, if asked the Japanese might have chosen another path ...
    The Japanese leadership chose war in 1941, and in 1945 they preferred the path that could have led to 20 million Japanese dead. It took the bombs to move them off that position and save their countrymen's lives.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    I don't challenge that the goal was stated I challenge that the U.S> ever intended to or would give up their nuclear weapons (under Reagan, now or in the future)
    I think we'd give them up in a heartbeat if it could be verified that others would as well. A world without nuclear weapons would enhance, not reduce, US military superiority.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I think we'd give them up in a heartbeat if it could be verified that others would as well. A world without nuclear weapons would enhance, not reduce, US military superiority.
    Never gonna happen. The U.S. likes having the big stick and being able to tell everyone else what to do, besides if we gave ours up and others managed to hide one or two then suddenly we would go from the bully to the bullied and the professional political class of the country would not like that.

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