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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No one has the right to have nukes.
    But if one country has the "right", then all must have the "right".
    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Iran has as much right to nukes as anyone else. Nations with nukes don't get invaded, so it is understandable that they want them. I know of no principal that denies their right to have them while others have them. In my opinion, no one has a right to have them or use them. Using them is genocide.
    Actually, the answer is a Clear Cut "No".

    Iran Gave Away that "right" by signing the NPT.
    It reaffirmed that Position/Treaty under a previous Revolutionary/post-1979 Govt, fully Knowing Israel had Nukes and they did not.
    Iran would regain that "right" by withdrawing. (but would be admitting the obvious)

    Conditions of the NPT are No weapons, but assistance with, but Supervised, Civilian Power acquisition.
    Such as the EU offering to settle the whole issue 8 YEARS ago by giving Iran Free Off-site Enrichment, to guarantee Iran would Not Divert materials to a weapons program.
    Iran refused.
    This really is as Obvious as the OJ Trial.

    It is SO tiring to EVERY Day hear the Numb-Nuts: "If they have them..."
    And I do mean EVERY Day.

    It's really a poll on Ignorance of issue.
    And of course, despite reading my post, many will vote the opposite position withOut being able to challenge mine.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    So God gave men the "right" to defend themselves.

    But governments have the right, assuming they have the power, to take that God-given "right" away.

    Don't let the folks over in the 2A forum know that a "very conservative" fella like yourself is spewing this liberal hogwash.

    Well, actually... That's the whole reason the 2A exists in the first place.

    If Government ever tries to exercise the power to oppress its people, the Founders hoped to ensure that they would be armed, so that they could (in theory, anyway) effectively resist that tyranny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The best? Or the militarily strongest nation, the one with nukes and a history of using them?
    Both. Obviously, I view the United States as being objectively superior to Iran with regards to prevailing ideology as well as long term motivations.

    However, "victory" in this particular struggle will, undeniably, ultimately boil down to which side actually has the will, clout, and power to impose their own desires upon the situation one way or another.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I heard someone make the argument that Obama doesn't believe the US has any rightful role in preventing or hindering Iran from developing and maintaining nuclear weapons. I don't know that that's true, and nobody but the President can answer to what he believes, so I'll ask what you believe. If Iran has the ability, does it have the "right" to nuclear weapons? (By "right", I mean the U.S. and other nations would not be unjustified in trying to prevent it.)

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    Every nation has a right to further it's self interests. While Iran may have a right to nuclear weapons, the world has the right to limit trade with them and make it difficult or disadvantageous to develop them.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Well, actually... That's the whole reason the 2A exists in the first place.

    If Government ever tries to exercise the power to oppress the people, the Founders hoped to ensure that they would be armed, so that they could (in theory, anyway) effectively resist that tyranny.



    Both. Obviously, I view the United States as being objectively superior to Iran both with regards to prevailing ideological and long term motivations.

    However, "victory" in this particular struggle will, undeniably, ultimately boil down to which side actually has the will, clout, and power to impose their own desires on the situation one way or another.
    Naw, U.S. is just like Iran, wait, scratch that. The U.S. is actually worse.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I know the history of Iran's relationship with Russia, China , Pakistan and North Korea....all nuclear powers.

    Then there's this:

    Iran Unveils New Ground-Based Cruise Missile System > Strategic-Culture.org - Strategic Culture Foundation
    Nice link. I didn't see the part about Iran and cruise missiles. I did however see the part about Germany's angst over the US's attempts to undermine their negotiated cease fire agreement with Russia, and the US's war agenda! Interesting. Conventional weapons can be used on cruise missiles too.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    I don't want them to have nukes but they have the right to have them, especially since Israel has them.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Well, actually... That's the whole reason the 2A exists in the first place.

    If Government ever tries to exercise the power to oppress its people, the Founders hoped to ensure that they would be armed, so that they could (in theory, anyway) effectively resist that tyranny.



    Both. Obviously, I view the United States as being objectively superior to Iran with regards to prevailing ideology as well as long term motivations.

    However, "victory" in this particular struggle will, undeniably, ultimately boil down to which side actually has the will, clout, and power to impose their own desires upon the situation one way or another.
    I'd be more concerned about a nation that has used nuclear weapons, then hand wringing over what some nation that doesn't even have them may do should they get them.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Other. Who (or what) grants rights to nations? Clearly neither this poll nor I can do so.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Other. Who (or what) grants rights to nations? Clearly neither this poll nor I can do so.
    Well crap, man. And I was totally anticipating this poll being dispositive of the issue and appropriately globally recognized as such.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Naw, U.S. is just like Iran, wait, scratch that. The U.S. is actually worse.
    Sarcasm?

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