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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Let's just remember this is all about Israel. Iran is not a threat to the U.S, and quite frankly I really don't care if they get nukes. The only reason that stopping Iran from going nuclear is such a priority for the U.S government is the influence pro-Israel lobby groups like AIPAC have on Capitol Hill.
    The problem is that a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel would draw others in.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    It's hardly conclusive where moral equivocation is no less tedious in this matter than in any other. If they have no right, then who does and why? Good guys and bad guys? Please.

    Yes, they have the right.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The problem is that a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel would draw others in.
    What concern is that to us? As long as we don't get involved, it shouldn't make any difference.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    What concern is that to us? As long as we don't get involved, it shouldn't make any difference.
    We would almost certainly become involved.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    It's hardly conclusive where moral equivocation is no less tedious in this matter than in any other. If they have no right, then who does and why? Good guys and bad guys? Please.

    Yes, they have the right.
    Simple and succinct.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well perhaps we've a difference in opinion on the character of those that kill innocent women and children, and those that justify it, hmm?
    Name a war where "innocent women and children" have not had to die.

    Seriously this ongoing anti-American everything is getting very tiresome. There is a substantive difference between collateral damage and deliberately targeting civilians.

    WW2 was the last "just war", but it was not fought justly, if you want to point at a horror, the real 'crime' of the Allies, look a Dresden.

    Before anyone can criticize the US, they need to actually STUDY history, the unabridged version not what you are fed in school. Most idiots who go on about Hiroshima and Nagasaki have never even seen the detailed notes on the lead up, how the US command struggled with it, how they chose the targets and save Tokyo harmless. Yes, their intelligence was wrong, but the Japanese high command was deliberately inflating their fighting capability.

    Meanwhile, suicidally crazed Japanese soldiers and pilots were tearing apart the US and British advances killing thousands of Americans. You ignore estimates that at that rate the war in the Pacific would drag on for three to five more years.

    All the critics look at is the result, the destruction, read the stats, and ignore what the high command faced.

    Anyone who sees history in black and white, good vs bad, like you is seriously under-informed, usually by deliberation.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    And if they were to withdraw their ratification of the NPT, they would no longer be subject to its restrictions and the current regime could argue that ratification of that treaty was by a prior rogue regime not in the best interests of the country. Changing things that prior administrations have done is how progress is made in politics after all (at least in the eyes of those in power at the time)
    Withdrawal would change the legal situation. As far as I know that would be legal.

    And what do you want to say by that?

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    What concern is that to us? As long as we don't get involved, it shouldn't make any difference.
    The US not get involved in a war in the Middle East, I chuckle.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Name a war where "innocent women and children" have not had to die.

    Seriously this ongoing anti-American everything is getting very tiresome. There is a substantive difference between collateral damage and deliberately targeting civilians.

    WW2 was the last "just war", but it was not fought justly, if you want to point at a horror, the real 'crime' of the Allies, look a Dresden.

    Before anyone can criticize the US, they need to actually STUDY history, the unabridged version not what you are fed in school. Most idiots who go on about Hiroshima and Nagasaki have never even seen the detailed notes on the lead up, how the US command struggled with it, how they chose the targets and save Tokyo harmless. Yes, their intelligence was wrong, but the Japanese high command was deliberately inflating their fighting capability.

    Meanwhile, suicidally crazed Japanese soldiers and pilots were tearing apart the US and British advances killing thousands of Americans. You ignore estimates that at that rate the war in the Pacific would drag on for three to five more years.

    All the critics look at is the result, the destruction, read the stats, and ignore what the high command faced.

    Anyone who sees history in black and white, good vs bad, like you is seriously under-informed, usually by deliberation.
    Yes fear, I've heard all you have before. Apparently you too think that targeting women and children is only criminal when our enemies do it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes fear, I've heard all you have before. Apparently you too think that targeting women and children is only criminal when our enemies do it.

    When has the US ever TARGETED women and children?

    Seriously, lose the hate OK?

    And get a ****ing education
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