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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And the day that a nuke is dropped on DC, the victors will be arguing the same thing.
    They may indeed, if they are the victors.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Defensive weapons are very legitimate. Only to freaks can killing women and children have legitimacy.
    The weapons per se are outside that discussion. The decision on use may involve legitimacy. All weapons are both offensive and defensive.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They may indeed, if they are the victors.
    Well that's what victors do. They legitimize war crimes and escape its prosecution.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Interesting, thanks for sharing that insight (about how things are) and also for the perspective on the WWII aspect of this issue
    You're welcome.

    Why the Atomic Bombings Could Have Been Avoided
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    There never was, and never will be any conceivable military justification for the August 1945 U.S. nuclear-bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Among all the evidence available on this matter, the documentary record compiled by several among the relevant primary sources, including the signed confessions of U.S. Secretary of War Henry Stimson himself, is more than sufficient to justify this conclusion. Nonetheless, the witless litany, the lie that that bombing "saved the lives of a million Americans," has widespread credulity to this day.
    Last edited by Montecresto; 03-14-15 at 09:07 AM.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well that's what victors do. They legitimize war crimes and escape its prosecution.
    It was ever thus.

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're welcome.

    Why the Atomic Bombings Could Have Been Avoided
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    Thanks for the info and the link

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Who is "them?"
    The other country (Iran) in this case, just as we "allowed" Israel to have nuclear weapons and have "allowed" N Korea to do so

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You're welcome.

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    Again, old scholarship rendered obsolete by Giangreco.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    The other country (Iran) in this case, just as we "allowed" Israel to have nuclear weapons and have "allowed" N Korea to do so
    Fair enough. Others will do as they will do. I'm not sure why you think I'm opposed to that.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I heard someone make the argument that Obama doesn't believe the US has any rightful role in preventing or hindering Iran from developing and maintaining nuclear weapons. I don't know that that's true, and nobody but the President can answer to what he believes, so I'll ask what you believe. If Iran has the ability, does it have the "right" to nuclear weapons? (By "right", I mean the U.S. and other nations would not be unjustified in trying to prevent it.)

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    Legally the answer is, as far as I know, simple. They presently are not allowed to have or develop nuclear weapons.

    Do they have the right outside the law? Well, that depends. If they take it and the International community allows it to happen?

    In any case they would have them and the world would be a somewhat more dangerous place.

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