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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Except for the hundreds of thousands of Japanese who dies immediately and suffered for generations to come because of the nuclear weapons
    Indeed, but the Japanese projected (and were prepared to accept) 20 million casualties in an invasion, not to mention the one million Americans who would have been lost.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    All sides targeted civilians in WW2 and there's no point claiming otherwise. The difference is that Allied victory produced a vastly better world than Axis victory would have. And in the case of the nuclear weapons in Japan, their use saved millions of lives.
    good point Jack.
    It took 2 bombs to get Japan to surrender - their Shinto devotion to death to the last man included their women and young men,
    even elder children

    I've seen pictures of women drilling with pitchforks -the alternative was invasion of the Japanese Islands.
    I wonder how many more millions would have had to die for that WWII to end like that.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    good point Jack.
    It took 2 bombs to get Japan to surrender - their Shinto devotion to death to the last man included their women and young men,
    even elder children

    I've seen pictures of women drilling with pitchforks -the alternative was invasion of the Japanese Islands.
    I wonder how many more millions would have had to die for that WWII to end like that.
    Thanks. You may be interested in #172.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Indeed, but the Japanese projected (and were prepared to accept) 20 million casualties in an invasion, not to mention the one million Americans who would have been lost.
    Possibly true, but that does not detract from the atrocity that we perpetrated on the world (Japan in particular) with the use of nuclear weapons

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Possibly true, but that does not detract from the atrocity that we perpetrated on the world (Japan in particular) with the use of nuclear weapons

    War is war, and nuclear weapons are just weapons. Their use in Japan saved lives and enabled Allied victory.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    War is war, and nuclear weapons are just weapons. Their use in Japan saved lives and enabled Allied victory.
    Then why is there such a controversy about Iran having a nuclear weapon, since weapons are just weapons and war is war?

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Then why is there such a controversy about Iran having a nuclear weapon, since weapons are just weapons and war is war?
    It is in our interest for Iran not to have such weapons. It is in Iran's interest to have them.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Possibly true, but that does not detract from the atrocity that we perpetrated on the world (Japan in particular) with the use of nuclear weapons
    on balance..the idea is the war had to end ASAP, and with minimal Allied casualties.
    Not Axis casualties,and not even Japanese civilian casualties - it was a horrible choice, but that is the nature of war.

    Truman had no choice really when looked at it with clarity.

    My personal perspective is Iran would eventually get the bomb if it wants it, and I'm not too happy about that
    because that means the ME will go nuclear too.

    But it's best to focus on what we can there -supporting Sisi in Egypt,
    and trying to save what we can of Iraq from being a complete colony of Iran, with the exception of Anbar for the Sunnis and the upcoming Kurdistan.

    Nukes are something we a re just going to have to live with, i'm not happy with Obama's end run around Congress either,
    but there are bigger concerns then nukes.
    I know most focus on nukes, but I just don't think even Iran would play that card

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post

    My personal perspective is Iran would eventually get the bomb if it wants it, and I'm not too happy about that
    because that means the ME will go nuclear too.
    Since Israel already has the capability, the ME is already nuclear

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert in Ohio View Post
    Since Israel already has the capability, the ME is already nuclear
    true. But Israel's "terrorism" extends only to Gaza -it isn't an Shia fundamentalist state like Iran is.
    Or ISIS brand of Salafi jihad. apocalyptic meaning ISIL would gladly let loose a nuke,
    Iran...I'm not 100% sure either way, but I'd like to at least not think so

    Israel doesn't want war..not even Bibi Netanyahu...the problem is Iran is like ISIL in that regards..
    The Iranian regime are a bunch of fundamentalist Shia clerics

    Shiite Islam and Islamic Fundamentalism | Martin Kramer on the Middle East

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