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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Waitaminute! Pollution could go away (or at least be significantly reduced) with the use of renewables. And it's not a fantasy. But you can't expect to be taken seriously if your in possession of contraband that you wish to deny others.
    But we're not talking about renewables, which still have major problems, we're talking about people who magically want cars to go away tomorrow. It just isn't going to happen, any more than nukes are going to go away. They're here to stay. Now we have to find a way to deal with them. Pretending that some magical anti-nuke fairy is going to come around and make them poof out of existence is silly.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    the 1945 use was essential to the defeat of imperialist tyranny. In the 70 years since then our restraint has been admirable.
    I'm not arguing, I'm just saying that the paranoia that someone is going to use them is a bit hypocritical considering that in the 70 years since they've been around, the only people who have ever used them, for *ANY* purpose, has been us.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, in your ****ed up twisted mind in which any kind of atrocity can be justified, I'm sure.
    Victory hung in the balance.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'm not arguing, I'm just saying that the paranoia that someone is going to use them is a bit hypocritical considering that in the 70 years since they've been around, the only people who have ever used them, for *ANY* purpose, has been us.
    that's a cute debate-line, but I've never found it anything but a "whattaboutism". The US leadership (generally) doesn't honestly believe that they can usher in the Glorious Eschaton and bring Jesus and the Ma'Dib Out To Rule Us All In Paradise by destroying other peoples. It is rational to worry about the ownership of the means by people who do.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Victory hung in the balance.
    And, likely, millions of Japanese lives. Somehow that always gets left out.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But we're not talking about renewables, which still have major problems, we're talking about people who magically want cars to go away tomorrow. It just isn't going to happen, any more than nukes are going to go away. They're here to stay. Now we have to find a way to deal with them. Pretending that some magical anti-nuke fairy is going to come around and make them poof out of existence is silly.
    Who wants cars to go away, and why tomorrow. It's nukes we want to go away, today. But sense the nuke powers won't do that, then we're bound to have more nuke powers.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Victory hung in the balance.
    As I said. If you can justify incinerating babies and children and women, you can (and do) justify anything.

    The United States bombed Hiroshima on August 6 and Nagasaki on August 9, when the Japanese finally succumbed to the threat of further nuclear bombardment and surrendered. The support for this narrative runs deep. But there are three major problems with it, and, taken together, they significantly undermine the traditional interpretation of the Japanese surrender.


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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As I said. If you can justify incinerating babies and children and women, you can (and do) justify anything.
    The Japanese sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Japanese sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.
    Those innocents that you're so calloused about sowed no such thing. But they did reap their loss.
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    Re: Does Iran have a "Right" to Nuclear Weapons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    As I said. If you can justify incinerating babies and children and women, you can (and do) justify anything.

    The United States bombed Hiroshima on August 6 and Nagasaki on August 9, when the Japanese finally succumbed to the threat of further nuclear bombardment and surrendered. The support for this narrative runs deep. But there are three major problems with it, and, taken together, they significantly undermine the traditional interpretation of the Japanese surrender.


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    The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan… Stalin Did | Foreign Policy
    A US invasion would very possibly have been defeated, and Japanese casualties would have run into the millions. The bombs were critical for victory.

    http://HELL TO PAY | U.S. Naval Inst...sion of Japan.
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