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Thread: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    The letter to Iran is not without precedent.

    Jim Wright, the Democratic House speaker during Ronald Reagan's presidency, was accused of interfering when he met with opposing leaders in Nicaragua's contra war. Three House Democrats went to Iraq in 2002 before President George W. Bush's invasion to try to head off war. And Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, went to Syria in 2007 to meet with President Bashar al-Assad against the wishes of the Bush administration, which was trying to isolate him. - See more at: MSNBC Falsely Claims No 'Precedent' for Congress Defying President on Foreign Policy
    Despite the networks’ eagerness to tout Democratic opposition to the GOP letter, on two separate occasions the “big three” completely ignored a letter penned by former Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) written to the Soviet Union in 1983 aimed at undermining President Ronald Reagan’s nuclear negotiations with the Communist regime. - See more at: Flashback: Big Three Ignored Ted Kennedy
    So there you have it. Democrats in congress interjected themselves into foreign policy matters with foreign leaders in Nicaragua, Syria and Russia during nuclear arms negotiations. If Obama would put down the pen and phone and work with congress now that it's under republican control, extrodenary measures like the letter to Iran wouldn't be necessary but he'd rather cut a deal without congressional approval which is favorable to Iran and which fits into his pro Muslim world view.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    not sure that it's treason, but I read several compelling pieces that it could be a violation of the Logan Act.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This from someone who thinks that being in any opposition to Obama is fundamentally wrong. I'm sure your belief is that their "opposition rights" are to STFU and roll over on everything.
    That is pure baloney - worse - its yesterdays baloney that has been digested and heading for exit. I said back in 2011 that Obama should NOT run for a second term and have been vocal in my disappointment for his efforts.

    So do NOT hide behind the strawman of your own creation on this one.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    extrodenary measures like the letter to Iran
    what does that mean.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Tell us, if you will, what your opinion of the congressional delegation headed by Nancy Pelosi to go see President Assad to relieve pressure being placed on him by the Bush Administration while he was still aiding in the killing of American servicemembers, secretly attempting to develop nuclear weaponry, and supporting global terrorist organizations was? How full of "blatant disrespect" or "disgusting" would you find those actions?
    And you really think these actions are the same thing?

    And the best you can do is a "its our turn - nanananana - you did it so we can too". Amazing!!!!

    That sort of partisan knee jerk response is not even worthy of a serious analysis.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Treason against Obama? Perhaps ruffling his well preened and cocky feathers a bit. But really, this was in very bad taste and shouldn't have happened.
    Of interests is that so many applaud the letter. Did you also applaud Pelosi and Carter going rogue?

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    not sure that it's treason, but I read several compelling pieces that it could be a violation of the Logan Act.
    The Logan Act has no bearing on this as it pertains to negotiation. This letter does no negotiating. It simply states a fact.

    Also I have a feeling that if this act were to ever be challenged in court it would fail miserably. Free Speech and all that. The fact that its never actually been enforced is why its still around I would imagine.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

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    And you really think these actions are the same thing?

    And the best you can do is a "its our turn - nanananana - you did it so we can too". Amazing!!!!

    That sort of partisan knee jerk response is not even worthy of a serious analysis.
    And this is a common deflection when it's been pointed out to someone that they lack outrage when it's done by someone on their "side" and just looking at your first line, your kneejerk reaction was, in essence, "it's not the same thing".

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    All I can say is that if the Democrats pulled a stunt like this when Bush was in office, the Republicans, talk radio hosts, and most of the commentators on Fox News would be calling it treason and would be calling for the trial and execution of every senator that signed the letter.

    I don't think its treason though. Just a douchebag thing to do.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    All I can say is that if the Democrats pulled a stunt like this when Bush was in office, the Republicans, talk radio hosts, and most of the commentators on Fox News would be calling it treason and would be calling for the trial and execution of every senator that signed the letter.

    I don't think its treason though. Just a douchebag thing to do.
    First of all, the Democrats have pulled stunts like this. Odd that they've escaped your notice and condemnation. That's the thing about claims of hypocrisy, they always cut both ways.

    Incidentally, do any of us expect any liberal/Democrat to support this letter? Of course not. It's not some objective analysis though, it's simply a partisan thing.

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