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Thread: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    1. Yes, shockingly enough, conservatives are not upset, since they hate Obama on an almost subatomic level.
    You are projecting. Conservative dislike for President Obama is nowhere near (for example) the vitriolic Liberal hatred for President Bush (W).

    2. The fact that the letter even exists is the most controversial thing.
    Oh. So Republicans are free to think that any action Obama takes on his own can be undone by a future President, so long as they don't say so? How very generous of you.

    The Controversial Thing, apparently, is not that we are slowly (well, not so slowly) and surely abandoning our position that a nuclear Iran is unacceptable, the Controversial Thing, apparently, is that Republican Senators have the effrontery to sign a public letter noting that Treaties that don't go through the Senate rest only on Executive Authority.

    The intent is clear.
    Oh yes, and it's so clear that only people who are desperate for it to mean something bad can discover it?


    No, you are correct. The intent of this letter is clear. The intent is clearly to lay out the US Constitutional order on international agreements. Do you think that the Obama Administration has been lying to the Iranians about the extent of it's Constitutional authority? Because otherwise, this doesn't make the slightest difference in negotiations other than to make clear the Legislative's Branch that Executive Decisions that do not seek Legislative Approval only have Executive Authority backing them.


    But I find it interesting that you are so upset.... and yet.... can't actually find anything in the document to be upset about......
    Last edited by cpwill; 03-11-15 at 08:42 AM.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    They stopped short of any legal violation of the law. But what they did was certainly a serious and even radical departure from the traditional support for the nations foreign policy as it has been carried out over the last few centuries. The blatant disrespect some of the right wing GOP has for our President is beyond disgusting. One can exercise their opposition rights in a responsible manner that would not have been as blatant as this.
    This from someone who thinks that being in any opposition to Obama is fundamentally wrong. I'm sure your belief is that their "opposition rights" are to STFU and roll over on everything.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Failure to march lockstep with Obama.
    That's not a mistake.....as they don't want to be part of BO Peeps emotional rescue. Just sayin.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You didn't think he would actually come up with anything from what was written, did you CPW?
    No. Liberals are desperately trying to make a mountain out of a molehill that isn't even a molehill in anything except their imagination - desperate to knock the news cycle over continuing revelations of the unethical and potentially (but not probable) criminal activities of their nominal front-runner for POTUS.

    If it hadn't been this it would have been shock and horror over how Scott Walker Parts His Hair Like A Racist Or how Rand Paul Referenced A Pickup Truck Which Is Sexist, or something else stupid.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    They stopped short of any legal violation of the law. But what they did was certainly a serious and even radical departure from the traditional support for the nations foreign policy as it has been carried out over the last few centuries. The blatant disrespect some of the right wing GOP has for our President is beyond disgusting. One can exercise their opposition rights in a responsible manner that would not have been as blatant as this.
    Tell us, if you will, what your opinion of the congressional delegation headed by Nancy Pelosi to go see President Assad to relieve pressure being placed on him by the Bush Administration while he was still aiding in the killing of American servicemembers, secretly attempting to develop nuclear weaponry, and supporting global terrorist organizations was? How full of "blatant disrespect" or "disgusting" would you find those actions?

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Look at those goalposts run!!! You said the letter itself got it wrong. Ok, so where is it wrong?
    How am I moving any goalposts here? You might want to educate yourself as to what that phrase means.

    The letter implies that Obama doesn't have the authority to make a binding deal.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You are projecting. Conservative dislike for President Obama is nowhere near (for example) the vitriolic Liberal hatred for President Bush (W). )
    I stopped reading at this rock-stupid comment.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Things are being done in the House and Senate that's never been done before now. Should the Senators that sent the letter to Iran, be punished for this acted against Obama, and the country?
    Things are being done through the White House that have never been done before. You have an issue with that?

    Seriously, please point to where in the United States Constitution it restricts any member(s) of Congress from sending a letter that details the process involved in ratifying a treaty.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No. Liberals are desperately trying to make a mountain out of a molehill that isn't even a molehill in anything except their imagination - desperate to knock the news cycle over continuing revelations of the unethical and potentially (but not probable) criminal activities of their nominal front-runner for POTUS.

    If it hadn't been this it would have been shock and horror over how Scott Walker Parts His Hair Like A Racist Or how Rand Paul Referenced A Pickup Truck Which Is Sexist, or something else stupid.


    Did you hear what Hillary had to say about the Senators that sent this letter? Now while all were focused on that bloated windbag and her lies and excuses over the emails. Seems some missed what she said about those who wrote this letter.

    Which her lameass needs to be called out over what she said. Each one of those Senators should send her letter and tell her never to open that Big mouth of hers again questioning any of their Patriotism.

    Yes desperation does become part of the lefts DNA nature.....especially when they can't run and hide.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I stopped reading at this rock-stupid comment.
    That's alright.....no need to show us what you can't figure out in the first place.

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