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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    I think most of us can agree that this GOP letter to Iran was an extremely unwise move. But treason, no.
    Logan Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was intended to prohibit unauthorized United States citizens from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. The Act was passed following George Logan's unauthorized negotiations with France in 1798, and was signed into law by President John Adams on January 30, 1799. The Act was last amended in 1994, and violation of the Logan Act is a felony.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    How about ALL OF IT!

    I seriously doubt Senate Republicans would have tolerated this behavior from Senate Democrats when Reagan was in treaty negotiations with Gorbachev. This is clearly an attempt to undermine Pres. Obama's negotiations w/Iran. The GOP Senators who signed their name to this letter should be ashamed.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Did John Kerry commit treason (again?)



    Did ted kennedy commit treason? (as well as manslaughter/murder)





    or pelosi?

    Democrats Declare Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy 'Traitors' - Breitbart
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Glen Contrarian.

    Although I am fairly certain that Iran knows exactly how our government functions, what is treasonous about sending them an explanation about what possibilities to expect in the future as far as our laws go? We didn't tell them anything untrue, nor did we tell them what to do - that choice is still theirs to make, so how is that acting against this administration?
    Morning Polgara. It's not treason. It's hugely in bad form, it's a very serious slight to the executive branch, and it's embarrassing, as it gives a very public perception that America is as polarized as it's ever been, divided to the extent that one party is bringing in a foreign leader to "straighten out" the opposition party president, and now then desperate enough to further humiliate the executive by publicly seeking to undermine the negotiations of the P5+1! Are you really going to tell me that you'd be equally nonchalant about this, all things reversed?
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    You think this childish post has any bearing on the role of Congress, no it doesn't.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    That may as well be what they penned.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    I see this poll has been jacked. I note almost every poll that has a right/left split in this section tends to get jacked in favor of the leftwing position even those where the votes are public. You wonder if its members logging out to queer the results, banned former members trying to slake their spite over their bannings, or trained monkeys at the Daily Kos being given bananas to vote vote vote



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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Things are being done in the House and Senate that's never been done before now. Should the Senators that sent the letter to Iran, be punished for this acted against Obama, and the country?
    No treason. But as old as I am I remember when politics ended at the waters edge. In fact back in 1964 Goldwater refused to make Vietnam an issue because of that. But since then foreign policy has been fair game. Back in those days, the 50's I know the senate would approve budgets for organizations like the CIA without even asking anything about what they were doing with the money. But those days has changed.

    If I remember right, Carter is always poking his nose into the foreign policy of Republican presidents by going here and there. There was also 3 Democratic senators and a congresswoman who visited Saddam prior to the second Gulf War. The Republicans were just as much upset about their visit as the Democrats are now about the letter.

    Treaties must be approved by the senate, so unless this negotiations is not a treaty, the senate has a roll to play. It wouldn't surprise me if words was used to try to make this Iran thing not a treaty. Time will tell.

    Personally, I wish the Republicans wouldn't have sent the letter. But in today's political environment where each party thinks what they do is fine, but if the other party does the exact same thing, they are wrong. All this hoopla doesn't surprise me one bit.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    That case in controversy has already been decided by the Supreme Court.

    Per SCOTUS:
    And as we've seen repeatedly over the years, there are grey areas where the Executive can step into the area typically assigned to the legislative and vise versa. As to whether or not this is "negotiation" is questionable. Additionally, as I pointed out and you've convienently ignored, precedence suggests that such actions as this does not rise to a level that either is a violation, or necessitates a charge of a violation, considering the plethora of times over the past 30 decades that members of congress have conversed with foreign nations, utilizing their official capacity to give weight to their words, regarding issues relating to ongoing actions by the executive.

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