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Thread: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewas View Post
    Things are being done in the House and Senate that's never been done before now. Should the Senators that sent the letter to Iran, be punished for this acted against Obama, and the country?
    Providing a country with information about our own country's Constitutional process has never been done before? Hmmm...maybe you're right about that...maybe your wrong. I'm leaning toward you being wrong.

    In any event, do you think it's a bad thing to try to educate others? Is this somehow "against Obama" and needs to be punished? Perhaps you think it's in Obama's best interests to keep his negotiating partners in the dark about the Constitutional process in his own country?

    If your answer to these questions is "yes", then I would like to hear your justification for that answer.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I use words like may because it's the most accurate non-partisan word to use in this case. It's not definite or likely that a court would find essentially the entire majority party guilty of a crime. But it is not impossible nor unlikely that that they violated the law. By any honest reading, the GoP could be indited but conviction is questionable.

    So how likely do you think it is that the GoP violated the law?
    Well maybe you can enlighten us as to which law may have been broken.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Were those agreement about nuclear programs?
    Yes, with China.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I have but one question on this matter:
    The President has the power to negotiate treaties. But only our legislative branch has the power to ratify it and make it binding. Per the US Constitution. Article 2, section 2, paragraph 2.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, with China.
    Are they still in place?
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    So Congressional Republicans making it known the oppose Obama not only is racist, but now treason too?

    How is what Republicans did any different than Obama pre-announcing he would veto legislation? Republicans have announced they will not ratify the current deal being negotiated. That is entirely proper.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well maybe you can enlighten us as to which law may have been broken.
    Well I guess have a nice day. I'm really not interested in playing stupid word games.

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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The President has the power to negotiate treaties. But only our legislative branch has the power to ratify it and make it binding. Per the US Constitution. Article 2, section 2, paragraph 2.


    Make perfect sense, since any other reading of this would allow the President to make law since treaties become the law of the land. So Congress is within their rights to comment on this entire matter.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Well I guess have a nice day. I'm really not interested in playing stupid word games.
    So think they broke a law, but haven't a clue what law that might be.
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    Re: Did the GOP Senators commit a Treason act against Obama and the Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleray View Post
    Quite the dumb move. It opens up another avenue of negotiations and allows Iran to play one branch of gov't off of the other.
    Why would Iran negotiate if they get a letter delivered that says:

    To Whom it May concern:
    Just a quick civics lesson since you guys probably never saw School House Rock.
    Ya know, any deal that you sign just might be null and void if we can get hold of that White House.
    We're just sayin'
    Signed, Your Friends in Congress, The Mighty GOP, et al.

    Iran can nix the whole deal saying that they don't know who their negotiating with.
    They can then press full ahead, sanctions be damned. Someone is always willing to circumvent them to make a buck.
    Just keep a record of everyone who signed the letter and watch them back away when the election is in full swing.
    And while we're at it, let's invite Bibi over here.
    We can fawn all over him, and remove any pressure he might feel to stop the settlements, and help him get re-elected.
    What a bunch of Maroons!
    The whole thing is stupid when looked at from more than just one angle.

    Here's another fictional letter from the Hardliners in Iran.

    Dear GOP Lawmakers:

    Seriously. I don't care if we dealt with a Republican President. We would be the first to break the agreement anyways. Please use the enclosed gift you idiots.

    "The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." `Thomas Jefferson

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