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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    To an extent, I agree. Where I differ is in my belief that it is becoming exceedingly important that the UN begin to uphold the UN Norm of protecting populations and move to guarantying security internationally. A place like Syria would be fine to intervene and on behalf of the populations using resources of the neighbors and other powers like China, Nato or Japan. The UN is not going to do this without prodding. We should be prodding.
    yes. we should be prodding Saudi Arabia to police its own neighborhood.

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yes. we should be prodding Saudi Arabia to police its own neighborhood.
    Certainly they should be a major participant in the effort, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Certainly they should be a major participant in the effort, I agree.

    Saudi kings are never better than Assad
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    a very clear question to (particularly )right wingers who hate islamists but keep ignoring the US government's great role in allowing isis to gain power in Syria
    Assad. Syria requires an iron fisted leader. It is not a homogenous country and what we are seeing is evidence of why hardline leadership has been required there for decades.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Assad. Syria requires an iron fisted leader. It is not a homogenous country and what we are seeing is evidence of why hardline leadership has been required there for decades.
    exactly!
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Neither. They're both different levels of ****ed up. Assad, like Saddam did in Iraq, used violence and murder to keep the country from imploding in sectarian war. No matter what, the country is going to be a hellhole. ISIS is just broadcasting its atrocities to the rest of the world, whereas Assad tried very hard to hide his.
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    While Egypt is not currently launching airstrikes alongside the U.S. and other Arab nations in Iraq and Syria, el-Sisi endorsed the idea of an "Arab ready force" with U.S. backing to take on security challenges.

    He said this "ready force" could include his country, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Jordan and others,
    and be "capable of defending our national security" and confronting dangers in the region.
    The Egyptian president first called for such a regional coalition in a speech last month. In the interview with Fox News, he stressed that ISIS and other groups pose a growing threat

    Exclusive: El-Sisi urges

    Arab League is meeting soon. gotta like el-Sisi....read the interview

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Why choose?

    Kill them both.
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yes. we should be prodding Saudi Arabia to police its own neighborhood.
    They won't.
    They are building a wall ( fortified barriers around the kingdom).



    The Washington Times reports that Saudi Arabia has decided to build a 600 mile security barrier in response to concerns that ISIS and other terrorists may try to seize control of Mecca and Medina. The Saudis already have in place a 1000 mile security barrier to keep out terrorists from Yemen.
    http://blog.camera.org/archives/2015...nother_fe.html

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    They won't.
    They are building a wall ( fortified barriers around the kingdom).



    The Washington Times reports that Saudi Arabia has decided to build a 600 mile security barrier in response to concerns that ISIS and other terrorists may try to seize control of Mecca and Medina. The Saudis already have in place a 1000 mile security barrier to keep out terrorists from Yemen.
    CAMERA Snapshots: Saudi Arabia Builds Another "Apartheid Wall" to Keep Out Terrorists
    let them build it. it's still their responsibility. the US is not Saudi Arabia's pro bono military.

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