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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    When compared to islamists of course anyone should prefer the Assad regime.
    he's a murdering asshole. IS are a group of murdering assholes. i'm not going to waste my Tuesday deciding which murdering asshole is more palatable.

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    he's a murdering asshole. IS are a group of murdering assholes. i'm not going to waste my Tuesday deciding which murdering asshole is more palatable.
    I agree because you are always peaceful : ))) but whether he is asshole or not isnt a problem from teh western perspective.
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    We should be working day and night on getting the regional powers including Europe to pressure the UN to level a robust a police action against both the dictator and the Caliphate. We are talking mass murder and atrocities against the populations. The UN installed R2P and should be held to it.
    basically, the region needs to handle it. that means every regional power, including Iran and Saudi Arabia. the west can't fix this one, and if the fix is external, some other group of assholes is likely to pop up and radicalize. this has to be solved regionally.

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I agree because you are always peaceful : ))) but whether he is asshole or not isnt a problem from teh western perspective.
    it's a problem. he is worse than other dictators that the US has fought wars to topple, and a couple years ago, there was serious pressure for the US to topple him. i am not on his side no matter how awful a common enemy is.

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    neither. the regional powers need to solve this problem.
    What problem? Assad was fighting terrorists. Americans were outraged at this so we started arming the terrorists even though they were aligned with Al-Qaeda. Now it turns out that ISIS popped up. We're fighting ISIS and once they're defeated we can go back to supporting Al-Qaeda.
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    a very clear question to (particularly )right wingers who hate islamists but keep ignoring the US government's great role in allowing isis to gain power in Syria
    Assad was once friendly with the US. I am frankly unaware of why he became an enemy of the US. We all know the result of interfering in the leadership of other Mid Eastern countries. I also know that Assad is aligned with Putin although I'm not sure why this matters..

    With respect to ISIS, we all know how that is playing out.
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's a problem. he is worse than other dictators that the US has fought wars to topple, and a couple years ago, there was serious pressure for the US to topple him. i am not on his side no matter how awful a common enemy is.
    you should learn about the great middle east Project.its not about him being dictator.I dont have to remind you of US interventions in Chile .you remember the dictator pinochet.
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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I don't think we should be even doing that much. ISIS is not a threat to us and our record when it comes to intervening in the Middle East doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence.
    I am less worried about ISIS and Assad being a real threat to us, though, ISIS is quite interested in giving us pain and could kill a couple of thousand Americans, if we let them. Should they get their hands on WMD like a dirty bomb, which is quite easily possible, that pain could be quite unpleasant.

    As I said, that is not what is foremost in my mind. I think it is more important to get a general system of international security in place that robustly that protects populations and thus legitimated guaranties international security. If we do not do that, we will slide into a multipolar structure with the deadly wars small and great that such a game structure invariably holds in store.

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    basically, the region needs to handle it. that means every regional power, including Iran and Saudi Arabia. the west can't fix this one, and if the fix is external, some other group of assholes is likely to pop up and radicalize. this has to be solved regionally.
    To an extent, I agree. Where I differ is in my belief that it is becoming exceedingly important that the UN begin to uphold the UN Norm of protecting populations and move to guarantying security internationally. A place like Syria would be fine to intervene and on behalf of the populations using resources of the neighbors and other powers like China, Nato or Japan. The UN is not going to do this without prodding. We should be prodding.

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    Re: Assad or ISIS ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you should learn about the great middle east Project.its not about him being dictator.I dont have to remind you of US interventions in Chile .you remember the dictator pinochet.
    i support a major shift away from US intervention pretty much everywhere except for food and medicine. however, there is no way to make Assad palatable. he is a piece of **** murderer.

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