"And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."
Like so many, Framed to try and make a point.
By far the SMALLEST position, 2 votes/2%, said things would be the 'Same' for blacks.Originally Posted by Mr Invisible
What a Bizarre take/Mischaracterization on your part!
Then you go even a bit further/Broader by suggesting that people here feel "History would be same without the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade."
Except, of course, his take is Obviously and Utterly Untrue: not only baseless, but Opposite of what the votes show.Originally Posted by Cardinal to/agreeing with Mr Invisible
But hey, once Again, agree away if it suits your PC Politics.
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I'm personally sick of not being able to dunk a basketball because of racism.
I guess we here have to start enslaving people before they could be somewhere.
At the end of the day though - the history of Europe in Africa means most African nations are turning to alliances with China. China has invested heavily in Africa and developments are coming faster in the last 20 years than they ever did under white history or influence. Most westerners are still heavily influenced by the "Bell Curve" fallacy and pretty soon that will be an insignificant moment in African history as viewed by Westerners.
Give any culture a massive induction of free money and labour and you will see advances in all areas.
Rather than personal opinion: here are some more papers on the reversals inflicted on Africa and South America.
colonial powers arrested the natural development of the African economic system. ... indigenous Afiican economy was subordinated to the interests of Europe. Link - University of Tennessee.This paper documents a reversal in relative incomes among the former European colonies. For example, the Mughals in India and the Aztecs and Incas in the Americas were among the richest civilizations in 1500, while the civilizations in North America, New Zealand, and Australia were less developed.
Today the United States, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia are an order of magnitude richer than the countries now occupying the territories of the Mughal, Aztec, and Inca Empires. Economics, MIT Press.According to the geography view, societies that were relatively rich in 1500 should also be relatively rich today. In contrast, the reversal is consistent with the role of institutions in economic development. The expansion of European overseas empires starting in the 15th century led to a major change in the institutions of the societies they colonized. In fact, the European intervention appears to have created an 'institutional reversal' among these societies, in the sense that Europeans were more likely to introduce institutions encouraging investment in regions that were previously poor. This institutional reversal accounts for the reversal in relative incomes. Acemoglu, Johnson and Robinson.
2x + 3x = 5x
Now I can comment on that and say x's are like apples, oranges, or anything else in that two apples plus three apples equals five apples. So that is a comment on a core algebraic statement.
Going further, consider the fundamental distributive property
a * (b + c) = (a * b) + (a * c)
Accepting this as true, someone could come along and say, guess what, then
(a + d) * (b + c) = (a * b) + (a * c) + (d * b) + (d * c)
Because if you let
a = u + v
u * (b + c) = (u * b) + (u * c)
v * (b + c) = (v * b) + (v * c)
Which most certainly implies that
(a + d) * (b + c) = (a * b) + (a * c) + (d * b) + (d * c)
So from the core statement a * (b + c), an expanded statement was derived.
Similarly, the core knowledge of the Upanishads came from Vyasa and was commented and expanded on by his students and their subsequent students. But all of them, without exception, credit the understanding to Vyasa who himself said that he was stating what had been preserved in oral tradition extending back thousands of years. European scholars simply cannot accept this and as a result they try to base their dating of the Upanishads on conjecture and get confused when they see references to chronological events mentioned in the different Upanishads. What you have done here is merely regurgitate their confused statements.
You see Indian mathematicians were doing far more than counting on bones for a long, long time. Way before people like Newton and Leibniz were doing calculus, Madhava had already done extensive research on such advanced mathematical topics as the behavior of infinite series
Calculus created in India 250 years before Newton: study - Technology & Science - CBC NewsFor years, English scientist Isaac Newton and German philosopher Gottfried Leibniz both claimed credit for inventing the mathematical system sometime around the end of the seventeenth century.
Now, a team from the universities of Manchester and Exeter says it knows where the true credit lies — and it's with someone else completely.
The "Kerala school," a little-known group of scholars and mathematicians in fourteenth century India, identified the "infinite series" — one of the basic components of calculus — around 1350.
"The beginnings of modern math is usually seen as a European achievement but the discoveries in medieval India between the fourteenth and sixteenth centuries have been ignored or forgotten," he said. "The brilliance of Newton's work at the end of the seventeenth century stands undiminished — especially when it came to the algorithms of calculus.
"But other names from the Kerala School, notably Madhava and Nilakantha, should stand shoulder to shoulder with him as they discovered the other great component of calculus — infinite series."
He argues that imperialist attitudes are to blame for suppressing the true story behind the discovery of calculus.
"There were many reasons why the contribution of the Kerala school has not been acknowledged," he said. "A prime reason is neglect of scientific ideas emanating from the Non-European world, a legacy of European colonialism and beyond."
According to these early mathematicians they have merely commented and expanded on what was passed down in oral tradition for thousands of years. But Europeans can't accept that because of their egocentric arrogance.
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