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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You are full of it. Africa is full of wheeled vehicles, which are used all over the continent, and have been for a long time.

    I don't know what your problem is, but you should deal with it.
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    The wheel was introduced. Its still very backwards. Did you know that albino's have to live in guarded compounds because people believe their bodies have special powers and try to hack them up?

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    That's just your say so and I've shown that to be based on ignorance of facts.



    I've agreed this.



    Africa is a place where the oral tradition of storytelling is stronger - it's also however where the first written languages were created.



    The relevance is limited. Other technologies existed like smelting in metals etc.



    This above does nothing for your position neither is it clear what you're even trying to say.

    This isn't really debatable, Africa is a primitive continent. What advances there are came from the outside. American blacks who's ancestors were slaves benefitted from coming here.

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Many poor Asians came here and to South America in the 19th C as Indentured workers/Railway 'slaves'.
    As recently as WWII, Japanese Americans were Interned in Prison camps, and Lost Everything.

    YET, they and other East Asians, are at the Top of the heap in IQ, Academics, and Income, and have the LowEst crime rates, even in poverty.
    Blacks have 7x the White Crime Rate: Asians 1/4 of the white Crime rate.

    It's all about Evolution/Genetics. Yes, the very Un-PC 'Race.'

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    PS: The OP poll has Ridiculous Premise and qualification.
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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This isn't really debatable, Africa is a primitive continent. What advances there are came from the outside. American blacks who's ancestors were slaves benefitted from coming here.
    I read somewhere that humans were developed down there. Weren't they?

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Excuse me for laughing. Please explain to me then how some blacks, as mentioned prior, from the neighborhoods and comparable circumstances, make it by pulling themselves up and out, while others use their circumstance as an excuse.
    Why is it that an immigrant from the Ukraine or Vietnam or China, coming here with only a few $ in their pockets, work their arses off and make something of themselves? Are they more privileged than any American citizen? Do they perhaps work hard, safe their money and invest to move forward, more often than not without any Gov assistance?
    Please don't cry me a river. I have been there and done that and know first hand what is possible. I also know that it is so much easier to sit at home, text a bit and bitch about what others owe you.
    This is one of the points that always shoots a hole in the lefts arguments. Asians come to the US and within a generation outperform white Americans, where's the racism?

    And then theres the fact that african immigrants outperform african americans.

    Are we to believe that "whitey" somehow is racist against American blacks but not black africans or asians?

    The metrics for success-value on education, assimilation, marriage-those are what matter. Different groups behave differently but the groups that value those things will always do well.

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Many poor Asians came here and to South America in the 19th C as Indentured workers/Railway 'slaves'.
    As recently as WWII, Japanese Americans were Interned in Prison camps, and Lost Everything.

    YET, they and other East Asians, are at the Top of the heap in Academics and Income, and have the LowEst crime rates, even in poverty.
    Blacks have 7x the White Crime Rate: Asians 1/4 of the white Crime rate.

    It's all about Evolution/Genetics. Yes, the very Un-PC 'Race.'

    Prof. Philippe Rushton - "Latest Research on Race"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1mgrTGeDPM


    PS: The OP poll has Ridiculous Premise and qualification.
    Not addressing the fact that your comparisons are historically invalid, what is your position, then? That if Africans had immigrated here of their own volition they would end up with the same demographics they have now?

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I read somewhere that humans were developed down there. Weren't they?
    "Developed" is an interesting word choice. But all man is believed to have originated in Africa.

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Not addressing the fact that your comparisons are historically invalid, what is your position, then? That if Africans had immigrated here of their own volition they would end up with the same demographics they have now?
    I believe he's saying that intelligence has a direct impact on the success of a group. Different groups act differently-its no surprise there are differences in outcome.

    Tragically, the progressives in this nation very much believed blacks to be inferior, and in fact advanced racist laws and even were proponents of eugenics. They were even Hitler fan boys until he dared to attack Stalin.

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    "Developed" is an interesting word choice. But all man is believed to have originated in Africa.
    Evolution is quite an intelligent designer and seems to have lived in Africa for this development project.

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    Re: Where would black Americans be if their ancestors had never been enslaved?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I read somewhere that humans were developed down there. Weren't they?
    Which might very well play into why we have done so well everywhere else.

    Human beings are an "invasive species" on basically every continent but Africa. Living in environments where everything wasn't specifically adapted to kill them very likely gave non-Africans more breathing room to expand their populations and reap the socio-economic and technological developments that went along with that state of affairs.

    Most Africans didn't really have that opportunity.
    Last edited by Gathomas88; 03-09-15 at 05:07 PM.

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