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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    a little hyperbole, but they have a dismal not kill record, 90+ percent they take in are killed.
    It isn't hyperbole. I've worked for them.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Seriously, does anyone actually GO to see an animal circus?

    And what century are they living in? Anyone with an ISP can find much more amusement anywhere else..

    Now, do we want to talk about rodeos? and tying a bulls nuts so hard he's enraged. Now that's entertainment! Let's bring back dog fights too.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Elephants weren't made for circuses. They should not be performing in circuses. There is not one positive thing that comes from it. A lot of people spend their lives training elephants. They profess to do it with love. There is no love in making them perform. It is in direct opposition with their world and their societal requirements, not to mention physically taxing.
    I guess one could say the same thing about horses and racing.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Seriously, does anyone actually GO to see an animal circus?

    And what century are they living in? Anyone with an ISP can find much more amusement anywhere else..

    Now, do we want to talk about rodeos? and tying a bulls nuts so hard he's enraged. Now that's entertainment! Let's bring back dog fights too.
    Rodeos are horrible. They're another classic example of people making animals do things they wouldn't normally do, all in the name of "entertainment". It isn't like teaching Spot to roll over for a cookie, either.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not even close. Best guess is they put about 2600 animals to sleep each year. It's far too many, but it's nowhere close to the 3-4 million who die in shelters each year, or the hundreds of thousands who die outside of shelters, intentionally or because of neglect.
    Every minute in the USA another dog or cat is killed because it is unwanted. That is why everyone should get a mutt from a shelter rather than buying a purebred from a breeder.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    In the wild, elephants walk several miles every day with their herd. I have heard that the Ringling elephants are routinely chained up for 22 hours per day.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I guess one could say the same thing about horses and racing.

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    Yes, and you posted about PETA capturing Steve Asmussen's assistant trainer Scott Blasi acting improperly. You don't think I don't know all about that? And I would suggest a deep reading into the matter. Blasi was obnoxious - he wasn't cruel. Horses are bred to run. Elephants are not bred to balance on barrels. While I appreciate that you took the time to look up horse racing, there is zero correlation between what Blasi did to Zayat's horse and what has anything to do with the elephants. And horse racing itself isn't cruel. There are some bad people in it. There is no positive to elephants being used in circuses, regardless of whether they are tucked into bed by their trainers or attacked with whips.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Every minute in the USA another dog or cat is killed because it is unwanted. That is why everyone should get a mutt from a shelter rather than buying a purebred from a breeder.
    I haven't purchased an animal from a breeder in 20 years for this very reason.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Rodeos are horrible. They're another classic example of people making animals do things they wouldn't normally do, all in the name of "entertainment". It isn't like teaching Spot to roll over for a cookie, either.
    At least rodeos have an origin based in a whole bunch of very necessary skillsets.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    In the wild, elephants walk several miles every day with their herd. I have heard that the Ringling elephants are routinely chained up for 22 hours per day.
    Correct. And the performers are taken from their mothers years before they should be taken. And the babies are routinely traumatized in front of the older females, which not only hurts the babies, it horrifies the females who are by nature mothering types. Young female elephants hit puberty at age 10 and begin babysitting in the herds to practice for motherhood. I saw a baby getting whipped in front of a group of chained females who were screaming out in pain with him because they couldn't help him. It broke my heart.
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