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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are instances of elephants finally losing it and killing the "handler" and others. Elephants are NOT an animal suited for being isolated (they are herding animals) or trained to the level of freakish unnatural behavior in circus acts. This, combined with the necessity for brutality to break an elephant starting at youth is fully unacceptable.

    It is not rare for a circus elephants and elephants used as working live stock to basically crack up and go on the rampage both to destroy humans as their tormentors and escape.

    WARNING: THIS IS LIVE FOOTAGE GRAPHIC. I posted the link only for this reason. It shows a circus elephant attacking people and the elephant being gunned down while trying to flee.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4IH-EqoHws
    Wrong again - Very, very rare in the US.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Wrong again - Very, very rare in the US.
    He was not talking about just the US. He was talking about in general.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    He was not talking about just the US. He was talking about in general.
    I have see video of the Indian elephants rebelling - you treat any animal like **** and they will fight back.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I have see video of the Indian elephants rebelling - you treat any animal like **** and they will fight back.
    Deservedly so. I am not a crazy PETA member, but people need to realize...

    You can tell a lot about a society by how it treats its animals.

    I actually adopted a bull shark. Wish I could afford the trip to go see her. but it is out of the question for now.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Deservedly so. I am not a crazy PETA member, but people need to realize...

    You can tell a lot about a society by how it treats its animals.

    I actually adopted a bull shark. Wish I could afford the trip to go see her. but it is out of the question for now.
    So you are an absentee foster parent? You bullshark will be getting tatted up and have gauges in its gill slits if you are not careful

    Animal protection runs the spectrum. Conservationists and Granola eating hippies should be able to agree on at least a few things.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    So you are an absentee foster parent? You bullshark will be getting tatted up and have gauges in its gill slits if you are not careful

    Animal protection runs the spectrum. Conservationists and Granola eating hippies should be able to agree on at least a few things.
    Yep. Being a Dive Master, I don't even fish. I love all the oceans life and just take pictures... Except for Lionfish. They are invaders here from the indian Ocean and are killing our reef fish.

    Some video I shot on a dive from a few years ago.

    https://myspace.com/jackal_ijn/video...reef/100159791
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    I definitely don't agree with the assertion that animals performing in something like a circus is inherently abusive to them. It varies from one situation to another. If the Ringling Bros treat their animals alright then I don't see the harm. Same with zoos. However, we should take steps to ensure that the animals' health and well-being is protected.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Yep. Being a Dive Master, I don't even fish. I love all the oceans life and just take pictures... Except for Lionfish. They are invaders here from the indian Ocean and are killing our reef fish.

    Some video I shot on a dive from a few years ago.

    https://myspace.com/jackal_ijn/video...reef/100159791
    A lot of chef's in that area are promoting eating them but it is a bit of a trick to get them caught and cleaned safely and they reproduce faster than we could ever harvest them.
    If I blow the conch and they don't come back; then we've had it. We shan't keep the fire going. We'll be like animals. We'll never be rescued.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    A lot of chef's in that area are promoting eating them but it is a bit of a trick to get them caught and cleaned safely and they reproduce faster than we could ever harvest them.
    Oh yea. But we are doing what we can.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    First off, well ran zoos are not in anyway comparable to circuses. Zoos allow people to see animals for themselves and by doing so hopefully gain an interest in ensuring they are protected in the wild.

    As to Ringling Bros decision to remove elephants from the circus, anyone that thinks this is not a good thing should read The Elephant Whisperer:

    http://www.amazon.com/Elephant-Whisp...hant+whisperer
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