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Thread: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Morning Tres. Hope you had a super birthday. I understand your sensitivities. I apreciate your love for animals. There's a group of folks who find training any mammal to do tricks for entertainment purposes to be cruel. Whether it be elephants or teaching dogs to walk on their front legs and climb ladders or dance on their hind legs. There are activist groups currently going after every aspect of animals used in entertainment. Sea World, Circuses, dog shows, and horse racing seem to be the hot tickets at the moment. The NYT published a piece on the cruelity of horse racing. The investigated all the big races and discovered a very large number of horses die each year during events. Many seem to get a one way ticket to the glue factory after breaking a leg.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/us...acks.html?_r=0

    Some folks find this appalling and want horse racing banned. Others want Sea World shut down. I have my sensitivities too. I find the practice of declawing a cat inhumane and I do think keeping a dog caged for 10 hours a day while the owner is at work, let out for a few hours then caged again at night very cruel. But pet owners do it all the time. My concern is the banning of things because of a group's sensitivities. It isn't just with animals, it has become an issue in all things.
    Once again, I don't know anything about Sea World, and horse racing doesn't compare with what we're talking about. PETA wants horse racing shut down and they also want meat eating abolished. I'm talking about elephants in circuses which is the topic of this thread.

    PS there are no glue factories in this country that use horses anymore, and after a race horse breaks its leg, it's euthanized. You can't place a horse with a broken leg on a van or trailers and transport it anywhere. Nobody ever claimed horses don't get injured on the track. They get injured in the riding schools, on farms, giving pony rides, and in the wild, too. One bad step will cause a horse's leg to be permanently and irreparably damaged. That's what happens when over 1000 pounds is supported by 4 sticks weighing about 10 pounds each.

    PPS thanks, I had a good birthday and was spoiled rotten by the Mister and the 3 little Bs.
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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I disagree. I think the elephants are treated well. I agree they are intelligent.
    Really? You may wish to qualify that statement.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Really? You may wish to qualify that statement.
    sure-depends. some places elephants are treated well, some places they are not



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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sure-depends. some places elephants are treated well, some places they are not
    Hence the reason to not allow it all. Which I have stood behind for decades.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Hence the reason to not allow it all. Which I have stood behind for decades.
    I am not willing to give governments that much power because the animal rights whackos will want more and more prohibitions to the point of not being able to own hunting dogs etc



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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am not willing to give governments that much power because the animal rights whackos will want more and more prohibitions to the point of not being able to own hunting dogs etc
    Yea, I don't see an elephant "slippery slope" coming soon. And you want hunting dogs, so did the abuser that left his "hunting dog" in the woods.
    My ex just adopted. I guess when they get old, just abandon them.

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    Re: Do You Support Ringling Bros' Decision To Remove Elephants From The Circus?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yea, I don't see an elephant "slippery slope" coming soon. And you want hunting dogs, so did the abuser that left his "hunting dog" in the woods.
    My ex just adopted. I guess when they get old, just abandon them.
    There is no elephant slippery slope coming.
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