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Thread: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You both are heroes in the truest sense.
    Well my wife wanted a girl and since there has only been 1 girl in my family in the last 4 generations, I figured we had better adopt rather than have 10 kids trying to get 1 girl.
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well my wife wanted a girl and since there has only been 1 girl in my family in the last 4 generations, I figured we had better adopt rather than have 10 kids trying to get 1 girl.
    Now you and your wife have 1 boy and 2 girls ...congrats on your family.
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Well one method would be for the "think of the children" uber conservatives to stop opposing SSM and gay adoption

    I am really floored it's such a high number though, and perhaps that begs the question if a one child policy or along those lines is needed

    Other ideas: higher economic incentives to foster/adoptive parents, more prosecution for child abandonment, easing restrictions for grandparents or others who at least know the kids but aren't technically godparents to take over

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Gotta be careful, huh?
    Well, it's unfortunate. Kids who deserve better get denied chances because of people's racial identity politics.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Charity organizations and churches should step up. Where they miss the mark, state government comes in and fills the gap.

    But that's just a short-term solution. We should be thinking of a way to prevent unwanted parenthood in the first place. Some ideas:

    -Legalize gay adoption so that there are more willing, loving parents willing to adopt.

    -Expand use of contraceptives and abortions to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

    -More sex education.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    It has been estimated that approximately 3 million children in the United States live in homes with no parents present. Of those children only about 10% or 300,000 are living in foster homes. Most of the children are living below poverty. What should be done to provide these children with a safe place to live, warm food, clothes and the supervision to insure that they have the opportunity to get a basic education?

    Whose is ultimately responsible and where should the financial support come from?
    Well you cant force charities or religious orgs to do it.

    You can *force* taxpayers. So that really just leaves the first 2 options (or do nothing, the last option).

    I would say the state since each state could have influences on the number of these kids by other social policies and laws they enact. Even the taxation they choose, like sin taxes or other laws where the $ would go to that specifically. Voters often get to vote on such propositions....would be interesting to see if it mattered to them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think it would be best to find parents for adoptions. There are really more than can presently find children.
    Many people will not take 'less than perfect' non-white, non-infants.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    i noticed you didnt have the parents listed as choices

    why?

    if they are out of the picture as in dead....okay

    if they are just irresponsible meatheads.....no

    and i mean BOTH parents.......

    any monies they are getting from a job, the government, assistance, etc needs to be partly diverted to whomever is caring for the kids

    the parents standard of living should NEVER be better than the standard of living for their offspring

    after that....any relatives that have the means should take them in....and be helped by parents/governemnt

    after that, turn the kids over for adoption
    Cant disagree with much of that except that kids that arent adopted go into foster care. And you cant force people to adopt....and sadly many want perfect little white babies.

    The kids we're discussing often come with a lot of baggage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMoonlight View Post
    (1) The money to support such children should come from foreign aid and from the expense it costs to have the American military in foreign countries (not from decent pay or equipment from the military, just from what it costs to have personnel overseas). Let countries who want to be fee of American interference run their own countries economically, militarily and socially.
    (2) Make adoption easier - ensuring that children are placed in good homes with people who have love to give a child (I am not concerned so much with income....my mum, myself and siblings and my kids grew up in poverty and we are none the worse for it. Poverty sucks but it has a character strengthening aspect to it and love and discipline are more important than money).
    (3) Ensure birth control is readily available for everyone (teaching the importance of self-respect and that one's body is not something to be used as a replacement for low self-esteem would not go astray either, even if some think that alleged "sexual freedom" is more important).
    Number 1 is very interesting. Never heard of that one before.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The parents should be held strictly liable in nearly all situations.
    Hard to get $$ from drug addicts, people in prison, people with no jobs, people that do not have enough to provide a safe place and food for kids.

    I agree but there are way too many that are just not financially or mentally capable of keeping them. Just stating fact, not excusing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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