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Thread: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Yes. so why, I wonder, do they not get the unwanted abandoned children?
    Strictly anecdotally, there are some public social workers who.... shall we say.... do not wish to dilute the children's "identity" by placing them with parents of an unfortunately lily hue.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    It has been estimated that approximately 3 million children in the United States live in homes with no parents present. Of those children only about 10% or 300,000 are living in foster homes. Most of the children are living below poverty. What should be done to provide these children with a safe place to live, warm food, clothes and the supervision to insure that they have the opportunity to get a basic education?

    Whose is ultimately responsible and where should the financial support come from?

    .... how about a special tax on those that want to outlaw abortion....

    I realize that is a quip and these things are not that simple; much as simply outlawing abortion is not that simple...

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    You missed the obvious answer: the parents. The time to decide you don't want the child is before the child is born. Once the child is born, it is the financial responsibility of the parents, either until there is a legal adoption, or until the child turns 18. It isn't the job of any of the groups listed to take care of children that the parents decide they don't want.
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    State, local, and federal government as well as charity organizations.
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1. I'd like to see how that is figured. A child in a house with no parents and not in a foster home is being raised by..... wild dogs? [later edit: this was answered: apparently it means "grandparents". If that is the case, then they are fine - they are being raised by family.]

    2. Even Milton Friedman said that children, the aged, and the disabled should be taken care of by society. I don't know why your poll does not allow multiple options, however, so I am left unable to vote.
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You missed the obvious answer: the parents. The time to decide you don't want the child is before the child is born. Once the child is born, it is the financial responsibility of the parents, either until there is a legal adoption, or until the child turns 18. It isn't the job of any of the groups listed to take care of children that the parents decide they don't want.
    How are you going to make ****ty parents step up and support the kids they don't have anything to do with?
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I was in a hurry when I posted it. Mea culpa.
    yeah, and it's my bad for not reading the thread.

    Doncha kinda think that the term "unwanted" children for those being raised by aunts or grandparents, or the like is a bit harsh?

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    How are you going to make ****ty parents step up and support the kids they don't have anything to do with?
    Alimony.

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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    How are you going to make ****ty parents step up and support the kids they don't have anything to do with?
    The same way we force deadbeat dads to pay child support? We go after their ass and garnish their wages for 18 years whether they like it or not.
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    Re: Financial Support for Unwanted Children

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How about making sure all women and girls have access to affordable birth control so this isn't a big problem in the first place? Or must our society punish sluts with unwanted children?
    That's great. We'll Hoover out those little unwanted inconveniences and the whole problem will be solved. Well, except for the ones who become unwanted when their parent discovers that kids are expensive and need regular care that really eats into the party budget. Of course if we don't care about the kids before they're born then why should we care about them after? Maybe we should just fix it so we can get rid of kids up until they're 11 or so.

    The LAST thing we need to do is make it easier to "get rid of" an unwanted child. Whether that baby is wanted or not it's YOUR responsibility to make sure he or she is cared for.

    I look at this poll and all I can see are 5 options that aren't the parents. That's damned disturbing. Number one on that list should be "Mother and Father".

    Look, I know that not everybody is going to be a good parent and some aren't even going to be capable parents. To that end there DOES need to be some kind of fallback position and some combination of all the available options is the way to do that but along with that there also needs to be enforced parental responsibility.

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