Should the "Rehoming" be legal without court approval?

[ALiberalModerate]

In every state but Louisiana adoptive parents can "rehome" an adoptive child with a non-family member without any court approval (in Wisconsin you can up to 1 year). Basically if for whatever reason you no longer want your adoptive child in your home, you can give them to another home without any prior court oversight or approval.

There is an entire Facebook group devoted to this: https://www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions

It has also resulted in children being abused in their new homes as was the case here: A child left unprotected | Cover Stories | Arkansas news, politics, opinion, restaurants, music, movies and art

Do you think this should be legal without court approval or not?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

That sounds really messed up on the surface. But I wonder, can biological parents just give their kid away to anyone they want without government oversight? If so, then I don't see why adoptive parents can't since they are as much the parents as biological parents are, in the eyes of the law.

I think there should be some sort of government oversight in both cases, though.

 

[tres borrachos]

In every state but Louisiana adoptive parents can "rehome" an adoptive child with a non-family member without any court approval (in Wisconsin you can up to 1 year). Basically if for whatever reason you no longer want your adoptive child in your home, you can give them to another home without any prior court oversight or approval.

There is an entire Facebook group devoted to this: https://www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions

It has also resulted in children being abused in their new homes as was the case here: A child left unprotected | Cover Stories | Arkansas news, politics, opinion, restaurants, music, movies and art

Do you think this should be legal without court approval or not?

For the sake of the child, it absolutely, positively needs to NOT be legal without court approval. This is disturbing that anyone would think it's a good idea.

 

[jet57]

In every state but Louisiana adoptive parents can "rehome" an adoptive child with a non-family member without any court approval (in Wisconsin you can up to 1 year). Basically if for whatever reason you no longer want your adoptive child in your home, you can give them to another home without any prior court oversight or approval.

There is an entire Facebook group devoted to this: https://www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions

It has also resulted in children being abused in their new homes as was the case here: A child left unprotected | Cover Stories | Arkansas news, politics, opinion, restaurants, music, movies and art

Do you think this should be legal without court approval or not?

Depends on the adoption. By that I mean, if the adoption goes through the US legal system, as in say a California adoption of a California baby to California parents, then - no. Adoption is supposed to be 'like natural birth' and the child has two parents on its birth certificate. International adoptions may have different rules and said adoption may not be binding in the US - I don't know, so I guess under those circumstances people can do what they want. But I think that an American adoption of an American baby should stick just like a natural one.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Depends on the adoption. By that I mean, if the adoption goes through the US legal system, as in say a California adoption of a California baby to California parents, then - no. Adoption is supposed to be 'like natural birth' and the child has two parents on its birth certificate. International adoptions may have different rules and said adoption may not be binding in the US - I don't know, so I guess under those circumstances people can do what they want. But I think that an American adoption of an American baby should stick just like a natural one.

We adopted internationally twice. The adoption has to be approved domestically just like a domestic adoption.

 

[jet57]

We adopted internationally twice. The adoption has to be approved domestically just like a domestic adoption.

I didn't know that. Thanks. Did you go through your county family courts?

 

[faithful_servant]

In every state but Louisiana adoptive parents can "rehome" an adoptive child with a non-family member without any court approval (in Wisconsin you can up to 1 year). Basically if for whatever reason you no longer want your adoptive child in your home, you can give them to another home without any prior court oversight or approval.

There is an entire Facebook group devoted to this: https://www.facebook.com/secondchanceadoptions

It has also resulted in children being abused in their new homes as was the case here: A child left unprotected | Cover Stories | Arkansas news, politics, opinion, restaurants, music, movies and art

Do you think this should be legal without court approval or not?

Take the whole "adopted" angle out of the picture and ask the question about a parent and their child. IMO, once you adopt a child, that child should be no different than child you fathered or gave birth to, both from a familial relationship and a legal one. The real question should be whether a parent should be allowed to send a child to a relative to be raised.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Take the whole "adopted" angle out of the picture and ask the question about a parent and their child. IMO, once you adopt a child, that child should be no different than child you fathered or gave birth to, both from a familial relationship and a legal one. The real question should be whether a parent should be allowed to send a child to a relative to be raised.

I agree an adopted child should be no different than a biological one. We have 2 adopted daughters and one biological son. As the law stands right now, the exception of Louisiana, you can send your adoptive kid to a total stranger to be raised without the courts being involved at all.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I didn't know that. Thanks. Did you go through your county family courts?

In a foreign adoption you basically go through 2 adoption systems, their home country's and the domestic system. You do the same home studies, background checks, and go through the same legal proceedings that you do for a domestic adoption - plus whatever the home country requires.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

I don't support the courts interfering in family matters to that degree except to prevent clear and unmistakable abuse.

It sucks, but sometimes parents-- birth or adoptive-- just can't raise their children and they need to let someone else step up.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

I don't support the courts interfering in family matters to that degree except to prevent clear and unmistakable abuse.

It sucks, but sometimes parents-- birth or adoptive-- just can't raise their children and they need to let someone else step up.

The adoption system would not make you keep your kids though. They simply screen anyone you want to raise them so that those kids go to a suitable home.

 

[radcen]

Devil's Advocate:

What if the parent figures out that they're just a crappy terrible parent, and wants the kid to have at least a chance at a better upbringing?

Is it the "re-homing" in general we are disputing, or the lack of court approval?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Devil's Advocate:

What if the parent figures out that they're just a crappy terrible parent, and wants the kid to have at least a chance at a better upbringing?

Is it the "re-homing" in general we are disputing, or the lack of court approval?

The lack of court approval.

 

[Lursa]

I don't support the courts interfering in family matters to that degree except to prevent clear and unmistakable abuse.

It sucks, but sometimes parents-- birth or adoptive-- just can't raise their children and they need to let someone else step up.

Agreed but what if there is a $$ component here? People that are qualified adopting and then selling the child to someone that is not qualified (in the courts' eyes).

Are there records of this happening? (Sorry havent read entire thread yet).

 

[Lursa]

Devil's Advocate:

What if the parent figures out that they're just a crappy terrible parent, and wants the kid to have at least a chance at a better upbringing?

Is it the "re-homing" in general we are disputing, or the lack of court approval?

And is there legal recognition? There are times when schools, medical facilities, the state, etc require parental or legal guardian consent.

I mean, not much stops parents from letting their kid live with someone else physically. Esp if not under scrutiny by the state from prior cause.

 

[molten_dragon]

No, that shouldn't be allowed to happen. If the state has an interest in making sure adopted kids are going to appropriate families (and it absolutely should), then that interest shouldn't stop just because the kid has already been adopted once.