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Thread: The Sovereignty of USA

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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I think that any country that receives substantial US aid should require their head of government to make a speech before Congress each year.
    Yes, thanking the US for the help, why not. Criticizing the presidents foreign policy in real time, **** no. We shouldn't send the next scheduled check.
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    I don't think Congress needs the President's permission to invite a head of state. But we gave him that platform two weeks before he is up for re-election and that is just not something we typically do. Why weren't his opponents invited to speak? It just doesn't set right with me. And the over-the-top welcoming was a little embarrassing.

    When it comes to Iran's nuclear program Netanyahu has cried wolf so many times I just can't take him seriously anymore.
    Just curious why everyone keeps bringing up the election in Israel. What does it have to do with Boehner inviting him to speak before Congress? And why would his opponents be invited to speak? It wasn't a debate forum. It wasn't about the elections.
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    blah blah racist bullcrap
    I am thinking of a certain Lily Allen song in response to your hate speech, but I'm pretty sure that the mods wouldn't be too happy about me posting it here.
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Just curious why everyone keeps bringing up the election in Israel. What does it have to do with Boehner inviting him to speak before Congress? And why would his opponents be invited to speak? It wasn't a debate forum. It wasn't about the elections.
    Greetings, tres borrachos.

    Who knows? They need to have a reason to be offended by his visit, I guess, but he was invited to come!

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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I am thinking of a certain Lily Allen song in response to your hate speech, but I'm pretty sure that the mods wouldn't be too happy about me posting it here.

    -No clue who that is and could care less.

    -Still absolutely no reason I should care about Islamic adherents who are a good 300+years behind the West culturally.

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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, tres borrachos.

    Who knows? They need to have a reason to be offended by his visit, I guess, but he was invited to come!
    Howdy Polgara. The elections weren't the only thing on Netanyahu's mind, to be sure. But they damn sure were a part of it. Thankfully though, the anticipated gains didn't come through. You're correct that he was invited, and as such that he did nothing wrong. Oh sure, we might have hoped that he'd have had the temerity to decline the opportunity to come to America, stand in the halls of congress and accuse the American president of "paving Iran's way to a nuclear weapon" but it would have only further frustrated the frustrated. And obviously, his preface aside, that sweet juicy peach was too irresistible.



    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s address to Congress helped bring about a modest boost for his Likud party, according to polls sponsored by Channels 2 and 10 that were broadcast Wednesday night.

    Hopes in the Likud for a major gain and in the Zionist Union for no change at all were both quashed.

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-Election...r-Likud-392963
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    First time Ive seen a foreigner get so many standing ovations from US Congressmen in defiance of the president. Its disturbing just how much influence Isreal has over our country when so many of our politicians bow down to Bibi as if he was the President rather than Obama.
    So it's OK for a foreigner to come here and disparage the President, in America, but when the President is disparaged in front of foreigners on their own soil - that makes it OK?
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    First time Ive seen a foreigner get so many standing ovations from US Congressmen in defiance of the president. Its disturbing just how much influence Isreal has over our country when so many of our politicians bow down to Bibi as if he was the President rather than Obama.
    Hell, just a few months ago they'd have applauded like that for Putin.
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So it's OK for a foreigner to come here and disparage the President, in America, but when the President is disparaged in front of foreigners on their own soil - that makes it OK?
    I think you misinterpreted his post. i don't think he said that at all.
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    Re: The Sovereignty of USA

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I think you misinterpreted his post. i don't think he said that at all.
    Wasn't really responding to the OP with my question, but more commenting on what Monte and PoS said - that it seems OK to allow others to come here and disparage a sitting President. That begged the question from me, of why it was OK to allow that to happen, but if someone did it on foreign soil, it wouldn't be OK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Probably because it was a republican controlled congress, attempting to humiliate a democratic president. What hypocrisy. You'd never put up with a democratically controlled congress seeking foreign answers to US foreign policy.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    First time Ive seen a foreigner get so many standing ovations from US Congressmen in defiance of the president. Its disturbing just how much influence Isreal has over our country when so many of our politicians bow down to Bibi as if he was the President rather than Obama.
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