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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well considering that Reagan supplied most of the arms to Iraq to build up their army during the Iran/Iraq war....it would have at least made more logical sense.
    He also sold arms to Iran. Secretly. To get money to use to support an insurgency in Nicaragua.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Looks like 19 are trusting BO Peep so far huh, NP. Despite the discovery of the Sunset Clause.



    'Sunset Clause' Is Iran Deal's Fatal Flaw.....


    The news from the nuclear talks with Iran was already troubling. Iran was being granted the "right to enrich." It would be allowed to retain and spin thousands of centrifuges. It could continue construction of the Arak plutonium reactor. Yet so thoroughly was Iran stonewalling International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors that just last Thursday the IAEA reported its concern "about the possible existence in Iran of undisclosed . . . development of a nuclear payload for a missile."

    Bad enough. Then it got worse: News leaked Monday of the "sunset clause." President Obama had accepted the Iranian demand that any restrictions on its program be time-limited. After which, the mullahs can crank up their nuclear program at will and produce as much enriched uranium as they want. Sanctions lifted. Restrictions gone. Nuclear development legitimized. Iran would re-enter the international community, as Obama suggested in an interview last December, as "a very successful regional power." A few years probably around 10 of good behavior and Iran would be home free.

    Meanwhile, Iran's intercontinental ballistic missile program is subject to no restrictions at all. It's not even part of these negotiations. Why is Iran building them? You don't build ICBMs in order to deliver sticks of dynamite. Their only purpose is to carry nuclear warheads. Nor does Iran need an ICBM to hit Riyadh or Tel Aviv. Intercontinental missiles are for reaching, well, other continents. North America, for example. Such an agreement also means the end of nonproliferation. When a rogue state defies the world, continues illegal enrichment and then gets the world to bless an eventual unrestricted industrial-level enrichment program, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is dead. And regional hyperproliferation becomes inevitable as Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and others seek shelter in going nuclear themselves.....snip~

    Iran Deal: Sunset Clause Is Fatal Flaw
    The question was who did you trust more- I have no faith whatsoever in the PM of Israel. Rather simple question.
    If this question was asked of Canada vice Israel, who would be picked.

    The deal can be easily blocked in both houses or stronger sanctions imposed with more than enough votes to override Obama's Veto.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Neither really but Bibi is smarter than Obama so I chose him.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Neither really but Bibi is smarter than Obama so I chose him.
    Then ya best bone up on Bibi.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Neither really but Bibi is smarter than Obama so I chose him.
    Bibi's been crying wolf on Iran for a quarter century. What do you mean he's smarter?? Every couple years, Iran is a couple years away from a nuclear weapon. You'd think people would learn a lesson about lying heads of State that have something to gain by advancing such fears!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Never before have I seen a US president (or any leader) get so owned by so many foreign leaders as Obama has. It's humiliating truly. He has to be sweating it.


    -Putin has owned him (Invaded another country and took over part of it)

    -China + Russia has owned him over spying allegations via Edward Snowden

    -A little IT nerd contractor guy has owned him and humiliated the entire country and is still doing so at Putin's behest

    -Netanyahu openly spits in his face by coming to Washington and speaking to Congress and visibly being more popular!


    Simply laughable. Obama is definitely amateur hour and every foreign leader and nerdy IT contractor even knows it.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It continues to be pointed out that congress isn't required to seek executive branch permission on something like this, but that the executive branch would be in the loop on it for suggestions, criticisms, and any other input, from the beginning. Not that 60 minutes prior to an Israeli acceptance would the WH be informed. It's much more than a courtesy. But, the GOP hatred of this president has overridden protocol, logic, discipline, ethics, and security, in an attempt to snub and humiliate him. Knock yourselves out, and don't be surprised if a democratic controlled congress doesn't pull the same cheap shot on a republican president someday, while pointing at Boehner and the 114th.
    seems like this unofficial protocol is a bit one sided , yes?.... or does the President inform Congress he will be speaking to foreign officials each and every time he does it?... you know, to seek suggestions, criticisms, or other input...

    in any event, this unofficial protocol breach is no excuse for sitting congresscritters and administration officials to act like petulant children.... they should have done the adult thing and entertained Bibi speaking.

    additionally, i don't really see Boehner thing as being partisan...by that i mean he invited Bibi to speak to the whole of Congress, not just Republicans.
    Democrats did, in fact , invite Bibi to speak directly to their party members... thankfully ,he turned them down and decided to keep the whole affair above ground and nonpartisan.
    I wouldn't be so supportive if 1 party invited him to speak only to them and tried to leave the other party out of it.... that **** isn't cool at all.... it's Congressional business, not party business.

    again, I won't mind at all if a Democratic controlled Congress does the same identical thing...it won't bother me in the least.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    The lefties have compromised the poll again by voting many times....The actual count by name is 16-12 not 83-12......Sad these lefties have to act like children.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Never before have I seen a US president (or any leader) get so owned by so many foreign leaders as Obama has. It's humiliating truly. He has to be sweating it.


    -Putin has owned him (Invaded another country and took over part of it)

    -China + Russia has owned him over spying allegations via Edward Snowden

    -A little IT nerd contractor guy has owned him and humiliated the entire country and is still doing so at Putin's behest

    -Netanyahu openly spits in his face by coming to Washington and speaking to Congress and visibly being more popular!


    Simply laughable. Obama is definitely amateur hour and every foreign leader and nerdy IT contractor even knows it.
    We'll, if you approved of Netanyahu coming to congress Monday, then you must like the humiliation. Btw, Snowden's disclosures indict Bush as well as Obama. And what exactly was Obama suppose to do to prevent Putin from going into Crimea. Nice to see the acknowledgement that Netanyahu's speech was equal to spitting in Obama's face. Anybody that hates Obama enough to gloat over seeing their president be spat upon by a foreign leader standing in our halls of congress is UNAMERICAN. And there's NOTHING laughable about this situation.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bibi's been crying wolf on Iran for a quarter century. What do you mean he's smarter?? Every couple years, Iran is a couple years away from a nuclear weapon. You'd think people would learn a lesson about lying heads of State that have something to gain by advancing such fears!
    And Iran has been as well. Old Jewish proverb - 3 sides to a coin.
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    Hillary is the only defense I or anyone else needs.
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