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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    well what do yyou think?


    Looks like 19 are trusting BO Peep so far huh, NP. Despite the discovery of the Sunset Clause.



    'Sunset Clause' Is Iran Deal's Fatal Flaw.....


    The news from the nuclear talks with Iran was already troubling. Iran was being granted the "right to enrich." It would be allowed to retain and spin thousands of centrifuges. It could continue construction of the Arak plutonium reactor. Yet so thoroughly was Iran stonewalling International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors that just last Thursday the IAEA reported its concern "about the possible existence in Iran of undisclosed . . . development of a nuclear payload for a missile."

    Bad enough. Then it got worse: News leaked Monday of the "sunset clause." President Obama had accepted the Iranian demand that any restrictions on its program be time-limited. After which, the mullahs can crank up their nuclear program at will and produce as much enriched uranium as they want. Sanctions lifted. Restrictions gone. Nuclear development legitimized. Iran would re-enter the international community, as Obama suggested in an interview last December, as "a very successful regional power." A few years — probably around 10 — of good behavior and Iran would be home free.

    Meanwhile, Iran's intercontinental ballistic missile program is subject to no restrictions at all. It's not even part of these negotiations. Why is Iran building them? You don't build ICBMs in order to deliver sticks of dynamite. Their only purpose is to carry nuclear warheads. Nor does Iran need an ICBM to hit Riyadh or Tel Aviv. Intercontinental missiles are for reaching, well, other continents. North America, for example. Such an agreement also means the end of nonproliferation. When a rogue state defies the world, continues illegal enrichment and then gets the world to bless an eventual unrestricted industrial-level enrichment program, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is dead. And regional hyperproliferation becomes inevitable as Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and others seek shelter in going nuclear themselves.....snip~

    Iran Deal: Sunset Clause Is Fatal Flaw

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    did that change from 19 to 81 in favor of Trusting BO. All in less than 40 mins. I wonder how much they trust this Guy.




    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has outlined a nine-step plan to “eliminate” Israel.

    The Supreme Leader of Iran’s official Twitter account has posted a set of answers to what are described as the “key questions”, saying that Israel is guilty of a host of “crimes”.

    In July Khamenei described Israel as a “rabid dog” for its bombardment of Gaza....snip~

    Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei outlines plan to 'eliminate' Israel - Middle East - World - The Independent


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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    well what do yyou think?
    I think I don't want another countries Prime Minister making our foreign policy decisions. Of course...True American patriots like your self disagree....
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The USA has already said that it won't let Iran have nukes so all we can do is wait and see what happens.


    as we pave the way for them to get them.


    We also said we wouldn't let N. Korea either IIRC
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well considering that Reagan supplied most of the arms to Iraq to build up their army during the Iran/Iraq war....it would have at least made more logical sense.

    Right out of the White House playbook...

    The Cheney reference was great I thought....nice touch when trying to destroy the credibility of an ally....

    I sure don't want you guys for an ally after that. Hanging with Obama means you get thrown under a bus by a band of howling banshees, too cowardly to even attend the ****ing speech, afraid of words.

    The reason I have so much contempt for the entire Obama administration is that they are so insecure they have to try to destroy the reputations of anyone who disagrees with them.,...even after he spent the first 10 minutes praising the US-Israeli relationship and the "help" Obama has given them.

    And the pukes with legs respond to those compliments with name calling and school yard taunts.

    Nope., I want my government as far away as possible from the Obama administration, being your "friend" on the international stage means bend over and the KY is on you....
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    did that change from 19 to 81 in favor of Trusting BO. All in less than 40 mins. I wonder how much they trust this Guy.




    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has outlined a nine-step plan to “eliminate” Israel.

    The Supreme Leader of Iran’s official Twitter account has posted a set of answers to what are described as the “key questions”, saying that Israel is guilty of a host of “crimes”.

    In July Khamenei described Israel as a “rabid dog” for its bombardment of Gaza....snip~

    Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khamenei outlines plan to 'eliminate' Israel - Middle East - World - The Independent

    From your link.

    However the statement adds that “the elimination of Israel does not mean the massacre of the Jewish people in this region”.

    The statement proposes a referendum in which “all the original people of Palestine including Muslims, Christians and Jews” could vote.....

    What's wrong with the nine points that both you and the Independent are mischaracterizing?
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    He said Obama's deal "doesn't prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, it paves the way", and for that, and for his false claims for twenty five years now, he's a god damn liar and a freak that should never be allowed in the halls of congress. Btw, I have opposed Netanyahu since before Obama was ever heard of. He doesn't give any marching orders to me. I only hope that we don't witness a democratic controlled congress do the same thing some day and point the detractors to Boehner and the 114th congress.
    he was brought in to give us Israels perspective on the matter.... which, is kinda important , being they are our closest ally in the region.
    Obama can ( and probably will) ignore Israel on the matter and go through with whatever deal he thinks will work ( it won't, but that's neither her nor there)

    my " marching orders" comment was in regards to Obama, not Bibi.

    I hope to further see Congress do it's job without seeking the the permission of the imperial President... regardless of which party is controlling which branch.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    From your link.

    However the statement adds that “the elimination of Israel does not mean the massacre of the Jewish people in this region”.

    The statement proposes a referendum in which “all the original people of Palestine including Muslims, Christians and Jews” could vote.....

    What's wrong with the nine points that both you and the Independent are mischaracterizing?
    Nothing at all that's why it is reported as is, like all the other New Sources reported it......how you missed the rest of it in looking to defend Iran, is quite amusing.




    It says the theoretical resultant government would then decide upon whether the latter group could remain in the country.

    But it goes on to say that if such a referendum cannot be achieved then “powerful confrontation and resolute and armed resistance” is the only solution, as compromise is not possible.....snip~

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    he was brought in to give us Israels perspective on the matter.... which, is kinda important , being they are our closest ally in the region.
    Obama can ( and probably will) ignore Israel on the matter and go through with whatever deal he thinks will work ( it won't, but that's neither her nor there)

    my " marching orders" comment was in regards to Obama, not Bibi.

    I hope to further see Congress do it's job without seeking the the permission of the imperial President... regardless of which party is controlling which branch.
    It continues to be pointed out that congress isn't required to seek executive branch permission on something like this, but that the executive branch would be in the loop on it for suggestions, criticisms, and any other input, from the beginning. Not that 60 minutes prior to an Israeli acceptance would the WH be informed. It's much more than a courtesy. But, the GOP hatred of this president has overridden protocol, logic, discipline, ethics, and security, in an attempt to snub and humiliate him. Knock yourselves out, and don't be surprised if a democratic controlled congress doesn't pull the same cheap shot on a republican president someday, while pointing at Boehner and the 114th.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nothing at all that's why it is reported as is, like all the other New Sources reported it......how you missed the rest of it in looking to defend Iran, is quite amusing.




    It says the theoretical resultant government would then decide upon whether the latter group could remain in the country.

    But it goes on to say that if such a referendum cannot be achieved then “powerful confrontation and resolute and armed resistance” is the only solution, as compromise is not possible.....snip~
    Exactly. Not unlike any governments approach when compromise and all other diplomacy fails.
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