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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The point is, we can easily find historical boogiemen on the Left if we want to, but what you did was purposely go off topic just for the sake of taking a jab at Reagan, relevant or not.
    It wasn't off topic at all. You cannot look at Iran/Iraq in a vacuum. The reality is, Iraq became what it did in large part to the arms that the US supplied to them under Reagan. That isn't "taking an unrelated jab" at Reagan....it is putting it into perspective.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Iran is a saber-rattling country. They don't have a suicidal death wish to end the world, or start a nuclear world war, which they know would happen if they ever tried to unleash a nuke on Israel.
    And Adolf Hitler had no further territorial ambitions in Europe. After all, he made that promise, when Britain and France agreed at Munich in 1938 to let him swallow Czechoslovakia.

    Your imaginings about a nuclear world war have a sort of drama queen ring to them. There is no reason to believe that a nuclear attack by Iran on Israel would cause any nation other than Israel to use its nuclear weapons.

    I doubt the Khomeinist murderers who rule Iran have the stomach for an overt nuclear attack Israel, if they get the bomb, but they would not need to use a missile and leave no doubt where it had come from. Iran has many willing suicide squads in Hizballah that could hide an atom bomb in an ordinary truck, drive it into a city, and go up with it. That would leave no clear proof Iran was behind the attack, and it's at least questionable if any Israeli government would be willing to kill millions of Iranians in a counterstrike based only on strong suspicion.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    And Adolf Hitler had no further territorial ambitions in Europe. After all, he made that promise, when Britain and France agreed at Munich in 1938 to let him swallow Czechoslovakia.
    Really? What countries has Iran gobbled up?

    These Nazi and appeasement references are so ludicrous they are funny.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Really? What countries has Iran gobbled up?

    These Nazi and appeasement references are so ludicrous they are funny.
    The urge to appease the jihadists in Tehran is obvious. And your president, Neville Obama, is leading the appeasement efforts.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The urge to appease the jihadists in Tehran is obvious. And your president, Neville Obama, is leading the appeasement efforts.
    Like the other neocons here you seem to have no idea what the word appeasement means. What exactly is the West conceding to Iran?

    And I didnt vote for Obama, btw. So thats another thing you got wrong.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    well what do yyou think?
    Both ain't great, but in this instance, Obama.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Neither. I don't trust the government of Israel as far as I can throw each of it's members. However, the US has no place interfering in Middle Eastern affairs.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It wasn't off topic at all. You cannot look at Iran/Iraq in a vacuum. The reality is, Iraq became what it did in large part to the arms that the US supplied to them under Reagan. That isn't "taking an unrelated jab" at Reagan....it is putting it into perspective.
    Foreign policy changes with the times, and the Russians were supporting Iran in that war; so what do you think we were going to do? Just sit around looking pretty? But you want to make Reagan at fault now for what he did then, and play Monday morning quarterback.
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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Like the other neocons here you seem to have no idea what the word appeasement means. What exactly is the West conceding to Iran?

    And I didnt vote for Obama, btw. So thats another thing you got wrong.
    I don't know what you think a "neocon" is, but I assume you mean it as a personal insult. No surer way to show everyone reading that your game is weak.

    I have a pretty good knowledge of the history of British and French appeasement of Hitler and Mussolini from 1934 to 1939, and I know very well what appeasement means. President Pinocchio does not wish this country well, and he has been kowtowing to the Khomeinist murderers in Tehran for six years. Not surprising for a man who had a Muslim father and stepfather, went to Muslim schools and had a Muslim college roommate, and counted the former PLO propagandist Rashid Khalidi among his closest friends in Chicago.

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    Re: Who do you trust more to deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Iraq became what it did in large part to the arms that the US supplied to them under Reagan.
    That assertion grossly overstates the amount of arms the U.S. helped Iraq obtain during the Iran-Iraq war. Iraq acquired very few of the heavy weapons it had in the Gulf War--tanks, artillery pieces, fighter aircraft--because of anything President Reagan did. Most of its arsenal came from the USSR, France, and other countries, not from the U.S. But your specious claim makes good anti-American propaganda.

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