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  • It's criminal

    125 46.82%
  • It's evil

    154 57.68%
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  • it's justified

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  • it's heroic

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    Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it??
    Multiple Choice

    - you're against it
    - it's criminal
    - it's evil
    - you support it
    - it's justified
    - it's heroic
    - other


    Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Murders

    • March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
    • July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before in 1984 and was also bombed subsequently in 2012.
    • December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
    • January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
    • October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after being apprehended in France in 2001.


    • May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at a church in Wichita, Kansas.

    Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping
    According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers. Attempted murders in the U.S. included:

    • August 1982: Three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.
    • August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
    • July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
    • December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
    • October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.
    • January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed off-duty police officer Robert Sanderson.
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    I chose "other" because I have a few answers.

    It's awful. It's criminal. It's pointless. It's cruel. It's hypocritical. It's wrong.
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I chose "other" because I have a few answers.

    It's awful. It's criminal. It's pointless. It's cruel. It's hypocritical. It's wrong.
    thanks it was multiple choice though so you could have picked the ones you agreed with and and other, fyi

    also I agree with you
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Christian terrorism.
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    People who break the law should be prosecuted if caught. Why they do it matters very little except perhaps as to their sentencing. I shy away from general rules involving the word "violence" because some people take it to absurd levels like cutting down trees is violence against wildlife. I am sure there are some people who would say protesting across the street is "violence against women."
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I am sure there are some people who would say protesting across the street is "violence against women."
    that would only depend on the type of protesting, in general i would never call normal protesting violence
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Christian terrorism.
    in SOME cases that is what it is, terrorism based on ones personal subjective view of thier religion

    luckily as a Christian myself i know no Christian in real life that would ever support this insanity
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    that would only depend on the type of protesting, in general i would never call normal protesting violence
    Some do, which is why I shy away from general rules. It is in the same vein as calling trespassing violence against property. Regardless, my position on civil disobedience is the same--if they break the law, charge them with the violation. That people do it for a cause does not mean they should be able to get away with it scot free.
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    1.)Some do, which is why I shy away from general rules.
    2.) It is in the same vein as calling trespassing violence against property.
    3.) Regardless, my position on civil disobedience is the same--if they break the law, charge them with the violation. That people do it for a cause does not mean they should be able to get away with it scot free.
    1.) who, people here think normal protesting is violence?
    2.) again, it "can" be but in general i would say it is
    3.) agree
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    Re: Anti-abortion Violence, how do you view it?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    in SOME cases that is what it is, terrorism based on ones personal subjective view of thier religion

    luckily as a Christian myself i know no Christian in real life that would ever support this insanity
    But it is a fair statement/term as is Radical Islam... right?
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