Do you agree with Netanyahu's view of Iran and the nuclear deal issues?[W:27]

Bibi both understated and overstated. The task of his audience to differentiate between the two.

hobgoblin said:

Atiya is a Muslim name, so his antipathy to Bibi must be assumed i suppose.

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SMTA said:

Bibi does not care about any country other than his.

He also is focusing only on his upcoming election.

He has historically cried wolf about Iran on many occasions.

He cannot be trusted, and needs to be kicked to the curb.

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I don't call it "crying wolf". Even the U.N. recognizes Iran's nuclear weapons program and the threat it poses for the entire region. They have found Iran to have lied on several occasions and have admitted that they are masters at hiding much of their activity. Now combine that with Iran's funding of terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbolla, and Palestine Jihadi to target Israel, from firing missiles into Israel to paying families for suicide bombers and operating jihadist training camps within Palestine, Lebanon and Syria recruiting the youth.

His speech was an inspiring one for sure, and of course peppered with a bit of emphasis here and there. If I were the leader of what amounts to be the bulls eye in the ME, I would have said the same. The man did not have the luxury of divulging classified information, he had to work within his limits. So to fault him for being a bit passionate is very cold.
It is very easy to criticize if we aren't in harm's way and only have a available to us what we think are facts, although these so called facts are not much more that some spoon fed information and propaganda.
If we, sitting comfortable behind the screen, were to run to a shelter on regular basis, or even needed some sort of protective structure as part of our daily routine, our opinions would quickly change in favor of Mr. N and the Israeli people.

SMTA said:

Bibi does not care about any country other than his.
He also is focusing only on his upcoming election.

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Yes, he is Israel's PM

He cannot be trusted, and needs to be kicked to the curb.

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vs trusting Iran?

Lovebug said:

Yes, he is Israel's PM

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and he used this grandstanding (at our tax $ expense) to help bolster his election profile. sickening.

vs trusting Iran?

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how about... NEITHER.

SlevinKelevra said:

and he used this grandstanding (at our tax $ expense) to help bolster his election profile. sickening.



how about... NEITHER.

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LOL, last week the left's comments were Netanyahu speaking to our Congress was harming his chances of re-election. So which is it?

You want to know what is really sickening? Obama operatives working in Israel to try and oust Netanyahu this election. They would prefer to have a leftist minded person as Prime Minister. But apparently their efforts have backfired.

Obama

:lamo

countryboy said:

And like clockwork, the anti-Semites slither out from under their rocks. I'm shocked.

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Dunno about that, I helped train Israeli reservists, love the guys- can't stand this demi-goad of a desperate political loony tune...

Doesn't make me anti- any people...just extremely anti-policy and anti-BoBo... eace

I think it's fine.

countryboy said:

And like clockwork, the anti-Semites slither out from under their rocks. :roll: I'm shocked. :yawn:

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And like clockwork, the warmongers accuse anyone disagreeing with the current ruling party in Israel of being antisemetic.

Of course they show their ignorance as usual considering that the vast majority of Jews are liberal and are the most consistent Democratic voting block behind African Americans.

Lovebug said:

His speech was an inspiring one for sure, and of course peppered with a bit of emphasis here and there. If I were the leader of what amounts to be the bulls eye in the ME, I would have said the same. The man did not have the luxury of divulging classified information, he had to work within his limits. So to fault him for being a bit passionate is very cold.
It is very easy to criticize if we aren't in harm's way and only have a available to us what we think are facts, although these so called facts are not much more that some spoon fed information and propaganda.
If we, sitting comfortable behind the screen, were to run to a shelter on regular basis, or even needed some sort of protective structure as part of our daily routine, our opinions would quickly change in favor of Mr. N and the Israeli people.

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Good morning, Lovebug. :2wave:

:agree: Very well said! :thumbs: I heard concern and worry for his country and its people, and the reasons why that concern exists, and I approve of the way he presented it! How many of us would put up with the reality that the people of Israel live with every day of their lives, running to a shelter because missiles to destroy us are on their way? There would be so much outrage and screaming here we would be deafened by the noise! Yet this administration is telling Israel that they are in the wrong? What bull**** is this?

Israel didn't get to choose where they would live - they accepted the worthless swampy bit of land they were given by the United Nations in 1948 and worked hard to make it into a decent place to live and raise their children, and in return they have had to defend themselves against ongoing violence by Arab countries like Iran ever since!! What a crock!

hobgoblin said:

I have to regard this as something of a joke, as serious grown-ups wouldn't ask such absurd questions.

'48, '67, '73, the DAILY barrages by Hamas, Hizbollah missiles raining down on Galilee, the daily terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians before they built the wall...i'm NOT going to link to anything as basic as this, as it is NOT my job to supply the educational deficiencies of ignorant Jew haters. This is a forum, not an online history course: i ASSUME a basic level of knowledge about the world from posters for any serious siscussion to take place at ALL. All this is EASILY avaliable to anyone. The fact that you demand 'linkies' like some 12 year old for basic knowledge any reasonably educated person can be assumed to KNOW already tells me you have a hidden agenda.

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So once all the spinning is over, you claim 'facts' and then completely fail to prove them.

Noted.


Here is my version of the above:

Me: The Moon is made of cheese...that is a fact.
Poster: Prove it.
Me: I don't have to you 12 year old, Moon-hating racist. Only an idiot would ask for proof, this is not a library, you are stupid...only an idiot would want proof...so there you Cheese-hating jerk.

vesper said:

I don't call it "crying wolf". Even the U.N. recognizes Iran's nuclear weapons program and the threat it poses for the entire region. They have found Iran to have lied on several occasions and have admitted that they are masters at hiding much of their activity. Now combine that with Iran's funding of terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbolla, and Palestine Jihadi to target Israel, from firing missiles into Israel to paying families for suicide bombers and operating jihadist training camps within Palestine, Lebanon and Syria recruiting the youth.

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I can't blame Israel for being more vocal now since it looks like the US is backing off of keeping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

It was an interesting speech. Was he right? No clue. Is Obama right? No clue. But it appears the partisans on each side have their minds made up.

I watched a clip of his 1996 speech to Congress. It was pretty interesting. The Dems love him then.