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Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

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cpwill said:
:shrug: I've experienced it and I've witnessed it. Sure, it's out there.
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can I ask what kind of experience it was ? We may want to read it
 
tres borrachos said:
It doesn't bother me if an Asian thinks his race lends itself to people who are superior at math than white people. So no, taking the highlighted words out doesn't change a thing.
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What if the Asian thinks that he's morally superior because white people are violent, materialistic barbarians?
 
Van Basten said:
Which was in response to this statement by Tres:

"....then the answer is "yes", because there is no doubt there are people in this country who feel the characteristics and abilities specific to white people are inferior to their own race. Could be Asian. Could be Black. Could be something else I suppose. Nothing wrong with thinking you're superior."

Obviously, I was talking about sentiments of racial supremacy.

Oh, not really? Let's see:


And then....

And then.....

All you did was say what I said in my first post, but with more words.

I'm just gonna stop here, this is pointless.

Have a good one.
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You are stretching. Even she was talking about more than race...

"Could be something else I suppose. Nothing wrong with thinking you're superior."

So no.

As for the rest you are kidding right? You think this...

Yes, but nothing to be worried about. - Van Basten Even in context means this...

ou can assume that is what the OP meant, but it does not take away from the fact that whites here have at some point experienced racism. - Black Dog

The second set we are saying the exact and polar opposites about systemic racism.

The last one is the only one that is correct.

Yes I can see that.

Good day.
 
Medusa said:
can I ask what kind of experience it was ? We may want to read it
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:shrug: nothing terrible. Called some names, refused service, etc.
 
Black Dog said:
You are stretching. Even she was talking about more than race...

"Could be something else I suppose. Nothing wrong with thinking you're superior."

So no.

As for the rest you are kidding right? You think this...

Yes, but nothing to be worried about. - Van Basten Even in context means this...

ou can assume that is what the OP meant, but it does not take away from the fact that whites here have at some point experienced racism. - Black Dog

The second set we are saying the exact and polar opposites about systemic racism.

The last one is the only one that is correct.

Yes I can see that.

Good day.
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Lol.

Just take the L and move on.

You're wrong on every front, it's plain as day, you're better than this.

And thanks, to you as well.
 
Van Basten said:
Lol.

Just take the L and move on.

You're wrong on every front, it's plain as day, you're better than this.

And thanks, to you as well.
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You can say that, but the evidence I just posted says no.

And don't give me that condescending "better than this" nonsense.

I said good day.
 
Medusa said:
it was terrible........
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:shrug: I walked away, and then simply never went back there. No, it wasn't terrible. :)


Now I had a friend who made the apparent mistake, as a white woman, of marrying a black man. The black females in our church were rather terrible to her over that.
 
tres borrachos said:
It doesn't bother me if an Asian thinks his race lends itself to people who are superior at math than white people. So no, taking the highlighted words out doesn't change a thing.
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I'm white and I can out dance any black man who dares to step up! Nobody does the Bump and the funky chicken like this cracker!
 
Goshin said:
Um, yeah. News flash: there are people who don't like white people because of their race, yes.


Drive around in Da Hood a while, you'll meet some.
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Hey, that's racist. :2razz:
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: I walked away, and then simply never went back there. No, it wasn't terrible. :)


Now I had a friend who made the apparent mistake, as a white woman, of marrying a black man. The black females in our church were rather terrible to her over that.
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Yea black women do tend to get hot about that. Not all of course, but it is a sore spot in race relations.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: I walked away, and then simply never went back there. No, it wasn't terrible. :)


Now I had a friend who made the apparent mistake, as a white woman, of marrying a black man. The black females in our church were rather terrible to her over that.
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hmm.:roll: .

but if all or a large number of blacks treated you badly you wouldnt be able to forget it in my opinion.
 
Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, California, District of Columbia, and Hawaii all have something in common whites are the minority. Thats means that less than 50% of the citizens are white.

Population Distribution by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

These states all have less than the US's 62% white population,

white,black,hispanic,other,total

37. North Carolina 60% 21% 9% 9% 100%
38. Louisiana 60% 32% 5% 3% 100%
39. New Jersey 59% 12% 19% 10% 100%
40. New York 58% 13% 17% 11% 100%
41. Florida 58% 16% 22% 4% 100%
42. Mississippi 57% 37% 3% N/A 100%
43. Georgia 56% 30% 8% 6% 100%
44. Nevada 52% 8% 29% 11% 100%
45. Maryland 50% 29% 10% 12% 100%

And these have a whites in minority. ( DC is not a state obviously)

46. Arizona 48% 4% 38% 10% 100%
47. Texas 41% 12% 41% 6% 100%
48. New Mexico 40% 2% 44% 14% 100%
49. California 39% 5% 39% 17% 100%
50. District of Columbia 37% 47% 9% 7% 100%
51. Hawaii 17% 2% 12% 69% 100%

These five states whites are not the majority they are a minority and according to the logic that the a minority race cannot be racist then whites cannot be racist in those states.
 
Grand Mal said:
What if the Asian thinks that he's morally superior because white people are violent, materialistic barbarians?
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What if he does? Should he be executed?

I'm not the thought police. I don't think there's anything wrong with people thinking they're superior in some ways to others. It may bother you but it doesn't bother me.
 
tres borrachos said:
What if he does? Should he be executed?
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C'mon. Don't do that.

tres borrachos said:
I'm not the thought police. I don't think there's anything wrong with people thinking they're superior in some ways to others. It may bother you but it doesn't bother me.
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The question is, do white people experience racism in the US, and I thought we were trying to see how the term 'racism' fits in the question.
I'm not the thought police either, nor am I bothered. I guess we're done here.
 
tres borrachos said:
What if he does? Should he be executed?

I'm not the thought police. I don't think there's anything wrong with people thinking they're superior in some ways to others. It may bother you but it doesn't bother me.
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Let's face it, has anyone of us not thought that at one time or another? What are social laws but one group saying they are a better judge of how society should act than another. We just call it politics.

And even if we do get bothered about it, can it really be changed?

My issue is when people act on that to the detriment of others. When laws are changed, restrictions created or favoritism is granted one group over another because of guilt, from AA to race based fisheries in Canada. If we're all so equal, how is it one group becomes more equal than another because of the sins of people who weren't even my ancestors?
 
Grand Mal said:
C'mon. Don't do that.



The question is, do white people experience racism in the US, and I thought we were trying to see how the term 'racism' fits in the question.
I'm not the thought police either, nor am I bothered. I guess we're done here.
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The question asked if white people experience racism. Based on the definition that I posted (didn't say if it was correct or not, I just took it and posted it), then the answer is "yes". Because yes, some people do believe that their race is superior to the white race in some regards. And it doesn't matter why they think that. That isn't what is included in the definition I posted.You are trying to get me to engaged in something other than what I already said.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Let's face it, has anyone of us not thought that at one time or another? What are social laws but one group saying they are a better judge of how society should act than another. We just call it politics.

And even if we do get bothered about it, can it really be changed?

My issue is when people act on that to the detriment of others. When laws are changed, restrictions created or favoritism is granted one group over another because of guilt, from AA to race based fisheries in Canada. If we're all so equal, how is it one group becomes more equal than another because of the sins of people who weren't even my ancestors?
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If we were all equal, I'd be as rich as Bill Gates, look like Cindy Crawford, be as smart as Albert Einstein, and ski as well as Lindsey Vonn.

If men and women were completely equal, the women would play 5 sets at Wimbledon like the men do, instead of the 3 that they play.

Humans aren't equal. We should all be born with equal opportunity, which is a big difference. But there is superiority, among sexes, races, etc. It's life. I'm not ashamed to admit most men are stronger than me. That doesn't make me any less of a person. It makes me a female.
 
tres borrachos said:
If we were all equal, I'd be as rich as Bill Gates, look like Cindy Crawford, be as smart as Albert Einstein, and ski as well as Lindsey Vonn.

If men and women were completely equal, the women would play 5 sets at Wimbledon like the men do, instead of the 3 that they play.

Humans aren't equal. We should all be born with equal opportunity, which is a big difference. But there is superiority, among sexes, races, etc. It's life. I'm not ashamed to admit most men are stronger than me. That doesn't make me any less of a person. It makes me a female.
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which race is superior ?
 
Medusa said:
hmm.:roll: .

but if all or a large number of blacks treated you badly you wouldnt be able to forget it in my opinion.
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are we dealing with resentments toward a situation or racism, as in blaming all for an incident?

I've had many dealings with Asians that did not go well. And I was married to one until a few years ago. I have had experiences visiting the US in northwest Washington that were, well racist against Canadians if that is racist [to me it is close enough] and I do not blame all Americans.

If however, I come away from any of those situations hating them all, then that is wrong by any name
 
Fearandloathing said:
are we dealing with resentments toward a situation or racism, as in blaming all for an incident?

I've had many dealings with Asians that did not go well. And I was married to one until a few years ago. I have had experiences visiting the US in northwest Washington that were, well racist against Canadians if that is racist [to me it is close enough] and I do not blame all Americans.

If however, I come away from any of those situations hating them all, then that is wrong by any name
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but thats why blacks have been commiting hate crimes .not a few whites but a government supported discrimination caused them to hate the White people
 
Fearandloathing said:
Let's face it, has anyone of us not thought that at one time or another? What are social laws but one group saying they are a better judge of how society should act than another. We just call it politics.

And even if we do get bothered about it, can it really be changed?

My issue is when people act on that to the detriment of others. When laws are changed, restrictions created or favoritism is granted one group over another because of guilt, from AA to race based fisheries in Canada. If we're all so equal, how is it one group becomes more equal than another because of the sins of people who weren't even my ancestors?
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I agree, with nearly everything you wrote. My only quibble has to do with the native fishery. I don't see it as giving something extra to them, I see it as not taking away as much as we might have.
 
Grand Mal said:
I agree, with nearly everything you wrote. My only quibble has to do with the native fishery. I don't see it as giving something extra to them, I see it as not taking away as much as we might have.
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I think both are true and I support a balance on the issue. That balance has been too many decades in coming but I deeply regret and object that it has to drawn along racial lines. Both sides have their argument, but we are one people and this does not promote that unity. I do not like seeing skin color as a difference let alone when it is legislated.

Further, and on that scale, we Europeans and Asians have a hell of a lot to learn from our neighbors about unity and sharing and how justice works...and that cultural thinking has to be embraced in Ottawa.
 
tres borrachos said:
It doesn't bother me if an Asian thinks his race lends itself to people who are superior at math than white people. So no, taking the highlighted words out doesn't change a thing.
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I don't know if that is a valid comparison as it has been documented Asians really are superior at math and science as a general rule. It is a matter of study at a local university. It is no more than blacks thinking they are better at basketball, because they are.

However some people say acknowledging that is itself racist, which is garbage since researching sickle cell anemia isn't racism....
 
There exist social forms of racism. As in racism that involves person to person relations. However, there is no institutional racism against white people in the US.
 
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