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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    I think may have misunderstood you, I took that statement as justifying racism rather than you just saying people are free to think as they desire even if those thoughts are wrong.

    Is this the case?
    You obviously misunderstood me. In the future I suggest reading my posts in full.

    And if the OP wanted the thread to be about "structural racial injustices", she should have said that. I answered the question that was asked. I also said that any race can be "racist" against people of another race if you apply the specific definition that I posted which had nothing to do with injustices or anything else.
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Yes and no. Nothing wrong with anyone thinking they are superior. Hell people think they are superior to others in many ways not just race.
    I obviously meant on the basis of race.

    You can assume that is what the OP meant, but it does not take away from the fact that whites here have at some point experienced racism. Not institutionalize racism unless you count being denied getting a government job or the college you wanted to get in.

    Now whites have not suffered near or even close to the amount of kind of racism minorities here have faced. They have however experienced it like everyone else on some minor level.
    Which I already said....
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Yes and no. Nothing wrong with anyone thinking they are superior. Hell people think they are superior to others in many ways not just race.

    You can assume that is what the OP meant, but it does not take away from the fact that whites here have at some point experienced racism. Not institutionalize racism unless you count being denied getting a government job or the college you wanted to get in.

    Now whites have not suffered near or even close to the amount of kind of racism minorities here have faced. They have however experienced it like everyone else on some minor level.
    -isms are everywhere. I'm sure there are a lot of men who think they're stronger than I am because I'm a woman. And they would be right, too. I'm not as strong as most men my age. That doesn't offend me that men would think that. Thinking you're "better" does not necessarily mean you think the other person/group/race/whatever is bad. It just means you think you're better.
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What harm can those with no power do to those who have all of the power? Fill us in.
    I just don't understand this point of view when there are innumerable examples of black people with very real power while most everyone, including white people, have little. The idea that the President of the United States couldn't be racist to me, some random white guy, because he has no power and I have lots of it is just idiotic.

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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    I obviously meant on the basis of race.
    Please point out where you said this? I don't see it?

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    Which I already said....
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    I've experienced it and I've witnessed it. Sure, it's out there.
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Me, I make a distinction between 'racism' and 'bigotry' and say that nearly everyone is a bigot and a subject of bigotry. It's all in what you do with it. Do you resist bigotry in yourself and others or do you accept it, maybe promote it?
    On those terms, I say that yes, there's bigotry against white people in the US. Racism, I'm not sure. Racism implies, to me, an active policy based on racial superiority. I'm not sure white people have been victims of that in the US.
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    -isms are everywhere. I'm sure there are a lot of men who think they're stronger than I am because I'm a woman. And they would be right, too. I'm not as strong as most men my age. That doesn't offend me that men would think that. Thinking you're "better" does not necessarily mean you think the other person/group/race/whatever is bad. It just means you think you're better.
    If you take the highlighted words out (a grammatically-correct thing to do), that sentence says something that I don't think you meant to say.
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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Please point out where you said this? I don't see it?

    There is plenty wrong with thinking you're superior. You should neither think it or act on it, such ignorance is disgusting and archaic. - Van Basten
    Which was in response to this statement by Tres:

    "....then the answer is "yes", because there is no doubt there are people in this country who feel the characteristics and abilities specific to white people are inferior to their own race. Could be Asian. Could be Black. Could be something else I suppose. Nothing wrong with thinking you're superior."

    Obviously, I was talking about sentiments of racial supremacy.

    Not really.
    Oh, not really? Let's see:

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post

    You can assume that is what the OP meant, but it does not take away from the fact that whites here have at some point experienced racism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Yes, but nothing to be worried about.
    And then....
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Not institutionalize racism unless you count being denied getting a government job or the college you wanted to get in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    White people do not face structural racist injustices though,
    And then.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Now whites have not suffered near or even close to the amount of kind of racism minorities here have faced. They have however experienced it like everyone else on some minor level.
    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    The question is not if there is racism against whites, there is, but what is the impact of that racism -- it is essentially nil.
    All you did was say what I said in my first post, but with more words.

    I'm just gonna stop here, this is pointless.

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    Re: Is there really racism against white people in USA ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    If you take the highlighted words out (a grammatically-correct thing to do), that sentence says something that I don't think you meant to say.
    It doesn't bother me if an Asian thinks his race lends itself to people who are superior at math than white people. So no, taking the highlighted words out doesn't change a thing.
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