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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Neither are honeybees.
    Not if current trends continue

    So why not breed mosquitos to do our pollinating? I fully understand that a world without honey would be a sadder place, but if we can replace bees with mosquitos, then the risk isn't that of this fabricated crisis of worldwide famine, but rather that of bad PR.
    There are a number of reasons (ex mosquitos are a disease vector, they don't live in hives, etc) mosquitos are not suitable as commercial pollinator.
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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Now we're making progress!!! You just made a BIG step, sangha. You stopped jumping to conclusions and started asking intelligent questions.
    I've spent my life asking intelligent questions and not jumping to conclusions so I've made no big steps.

    But since you were so supportive of the notion that it's mites, I can't say the same for you but I'm glad to see you making progress and asking questions.
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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Then why did you go on about how agricorps are trying to get rid of small/med. sized farms??
    I'm not sure why you see any contradiction. I explained how the market currently works and how that puts small/med farms at a disadvantage which is consistent with my claim that small/med farms can't compete effective against agricorps.
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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've spent my life asking intelligent questions and not jumping to conclusions so I've made no big steps.

    But since you were so supportive of the notion that it's mites, I can't say the same for you but I'm glad to see you making progress and asking questions.
    I based what I said about the mites on the statements from beekeepers, not from jumping to a conclusion.
    sangha: Bees are dying, it must be insecticides.
    faithful_servant: Bees are dying. I need to talk to some of the beekeepers I know and see what they have to say about it. (talks to beekeepers) There's a plague of mites that are causing most of the problems with colony collapse.
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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I am a beekeeper, and I DON'T support the idea of making pesticides which harm them, illegal. We've been keeping bees in this country for many years now, and they aren't the cause of bee colony declines.
    Then, pray tell, what is ?
    I am not a beekeeper, but, it makes sense that the bees should be protected from poisons .. much as we are ..

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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    I based what I said about the mites on the statements from beekeepers, not from jumping to a conclusion.
    Basing your conclusions on anecdotes is jumping to conclusions, IMO

    sangha: Bees are dying, it must be insecticides.
    Please stop lying about what I've said. Try quoting what I've actually said instead of making up lies.
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    Re: Should Pesticides that are detrimental to honeybees be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Then, pray tell, what is ?
    I am not a beekeeper, but, it makes sense that the bees should be protected from poisons .. much as we are ..
    I believe I mentioned that in another post.

    There will be a very occasional hive loss from pesticides, but it's not common at all. Bees from one colony don't typically ALL go to visit the same flowers for pollen and nectar. The conditions for pesticide poisoning also have to be specific, and not just that plants were sprayed, thus the bees die. It depends on the method, the pesticide, the time of day, and when the bees visit.
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