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    Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity. However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others.

    As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    There is no system or economic structure a country could follow that is not immune to greed and to prevent contempt from the populace. So no, Capitalism doesn't breed hatred, and if it did it is no better at it than socialism, communism, or any other "Ism" one can think up.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Because people will be soooo much less hateful if we were to take away more money from them. Seriously what the ****.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    No. If anything, the ascendancy of capitalism has correlated with a dramatic rise in living standards and general empathy.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    There is no system or economic structure a country could follow that is not immune to greed and to prevent contempt from the populace. So no, Capitalism doesn't breed hatred, and if it did it is no better at it than socialism, communism, or any other "Ism" one can think up.
    It is true that no system is immune to its influence. And part of the problem with the communism, at least how I understand it, is that it thinks it can be eradicated. That said, capitalism does seek to leverage greed, and in so doing encourages its growth. Greed is experienced to various degrees, depending on how individuals cultivate it. As such, the case can be made that capitalism creates conditions such that individuals are more prone to develop and cultivate greed which increases its growth. An increase in hate is the result. On the other hand, socialist models are more based on the notion of sharing. As such, the case can be made that they have the effect of limiting greed, although not eliminating it.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Because people will be soooo much less hateful if we were to take away more money from them. Seriously what the ****.
    Capitalism creates huge imbalances with some people having no wealth at all. That is a problem.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    No. If anything, the ascendancy of capitalism has correlated with a dramatic rise in living standards and general empathy.
    Your observation concerning living standards depends on what you perceive living standards to be. And your observation on empathy is totally false.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Your observation concerning living standards depends on what you perceive living standards to be.
    Income and housing stability, hunger, disease, creature comforts. Humanity has made tremendous strides in all conceivable facets in the last 30 years, let alone the last 300.

    And your observation on empathy is totally false.
    And that's your perception.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    The short answer is yes. Competition for resources which are controlled by a small fraction of the world's population and artificial scarcity created by this same group causes hatred.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity. However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others.

    As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?
    That is incorrect, for one core reason. There has never been a system of economy that treated all humans with equality. Straight up, we have never achieved a sense of human productivity that equated to all sharing the rewards in any equal portion sense. Even going back to the earliest economies.

    Just about every economic model humanity has devised ended up producing those who have and those who do not, and as such just about every economic model we can study going back to ancient times ended up with bureaucracy, controls, and the results of underline human greed. Greed for all things, which transcends just purchasing power in an economy but also social and governmental power over that economic model. This was true of early tribalism, early economies throughout all of the ancient empires, the larger global empires all the way up through the 1800s and 1900s, and of course most modern nations today. No matter where they all were in the development, greed made its way through. No matter where the economic bar is in those economic models, a lean to market economy forces or planned economy forces, you still ended up with the basic truth that someone won and someone else lost. Someone was in control, and others were along for the ride. Aristocracy, in some form, always existed.

    So selfishness, greed, and all the things that "produce hatred of others" has always existed... there is no possible roses and sunshine view of earlier economies, often built on the backs of slavery (no matter how you define slavery from actual human ownership to economic ownership.) All capitalism achieved then, was acceleration and a higher amplitude of the economic cycle. And all of this explains well why most modern economic models are mixed, and with that we still get aristocracy. And we still get plenty that go without.
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