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Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

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That's one thing that always strikes me about being an American. We know so little about class compared to say, a European who, while not liking class any better, certainly at least acknowledges its existence. Americans have an extreme disdain for notions and realities of class even though class is a much bigger deal in America than Europe ironically.


Wealth in America is far more uneven, even among whites, than it is in Europe. Europeans have much greater wealth equality and because of this truth Europeans are much better at spotting a true rich person than your average American is.
 
TurtleDude said:
ego has nothing to do with it and some people are net drains on society and those are not contributors but looters
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That is true. But I would say that SOME people who possess wealth do not add anything of SUBSTANCE to society either, and are thus net drains on society, in my opinion.
 
MildSteel said:
That is true. But I would say that SOME people who possess wealth do not add anything of SUBSTANCE to society either, and are thus net drains on society, in my opinion.
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if they aren't costing me money or you money I couldn't care less. People whine all the time about Paris Hilton but Paris Hilton isn't imposing costs on anyone
 
TurtleDude said:
if they aren't costing me money or you money I couldn't care less. People whine all the time about Paris Hilton but Paris Hilton isn't imposing costs on anyone
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They are a net drain when they promote values that drag society down.
 
MildSteel said:
They are a net drain when they promote values that drag society down.
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that's really speculative BS and has no chance of being established with any sort of empirical proof.
 
TurtleDude said:
that's really speculative BS and has not chance of being established with any sort of empirical proof.
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Your response is speculative BS that is not supported with any sort of empirical proof.
 
MildSteel said:
Your response is speculative BS that is not supported with any sort of empirical proof.
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Thanks for conceding your argument has no merit. You claim that someone who is wealthy is promoting values that drags society down is nothing more than anti rich envious nonsense that has no proof behind it
 
TurtleDude said:
Thanks for conceding your argument has no merit. You claim that someone who is wealthy is promoting values that drags society down is nothing more than anti rich envious nonsense that has no proof behind it
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More speculative BS that has no empirical proof.

:failpail:
 
MildSteel said:
More speculative BS that has no empirical proof.

:failpail:
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you really don't get it. I made a point that rich people who are paying lots of taxes aren't costing us anything. rather than trying to rebut that point, you started whining that their values drags society down which I correctly noted is speculative BS and is based on your subjective opinion which is not able to be proven
 
TurtleDude said:
you really don't get it. I made a point that rich people who are paying lots of taxes aren't costing us anything. rather than trying to rebut that point, you started whining that their values drags society down which I correctly noted is speculative BS and is based on your subjective opinion which is not able to be proven
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Your point is speculative BS that has no empirical proof. Get it?
 
MildSteel said:
Your point is speculative BS that has no empirical proof. Get it?
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the grade school tactic of repeating back an argument is really lame. why don't you explain how Paris Hilton's values drag down society which is the charge you made

you have demonstrated you don't have the ability to rebut my post that rich people don't cost the rest of us money so you then claimed that the values of rich people drag society down. I want to see if you have the ability to actually back that class-warfare based claim up
 
MildSteel said:
They are a net drain when they promote values that drag society down.
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Omg. Can't we get beyond the basic ignorance that class has anything to do with "who drags society down"? That's such bs going all ways. There are rich, middle class, upper class, lower class drug users and alcoholics last time I checked. The idea that more reside in any one class is entirely naive. They're all just people. Assigning morality to a person because of their bank account amount is purely idiotic.
 
MildSteel said:
No it was garbage. And furthermore, although I tried to avoid it, I went off topic to discuss what could be done for the sake of discussing with you. The result was a question that totally disregarded what I said. It is like discussing with a wall.
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What do you expect when there's no agreement on the fundamental premise of your position?
Further, that there's no room for discussion as to the construction of premise itself?
 
I've often wondered (as a conservative person myself), how is the drug user, alcoholic, lecher or other in the lower or middle class somehow more moral than the same in the upper or rich class? That's simply illogical.


Just because they can afford better drugs doesn't mean you're any more moral of a drug user than they are.. pffft. There definitely exists this "Lower and middle class Mass Biased Ignorance" against higher classes. It's sort of amusing honestly. As if one drug user or lecher is somehow better than the other because one has a bigger bank account. Truly amusing stuff. 10-year-old-Esq logic.
 
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TurtleDude said:
the grade school tactic of repeating back an argument is really lame.
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First of all, I did not name any names.

Second of all the truth is not lame.

As a result, your response is more speculative BS that has no empirical proof.
 
MildSteel said:
First of all, I did not name any names.

Second of all the truth is not lame.

As a result, your response is more speculative BS that has no empirical proof.
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what is speculative about my posts? do rich people who pay lots of taxes impose financial costs on people like you?

NO
 
eohrnberger said:
What do you expect when there's no agreement on the fundamental premise of your position?
Further, that there's no room for discussion as to the construction of premise itself?
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After I went off topic to actually try to give a substantive response, I got

So what are you purporting? Eat the rich?
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Like I said, talking to a wall. There is no point.
 
Ryan5 said:
I've often wondered (as a conservative person myself), how is the drug user, alcoholic, lecher or other in the lower or middle class somehow more moral than the same in the upper or rich class? That's simply illogical.


Just because they can afford better drugs doesn't mean you're any more moral of a drug user than they are.. pffft. There definitely exists this "Lower and middle class Mass Biased Ignorance" against higher classes. It's sort of amusing honestly. As if one drug user or lecher is somehow better than the other because one has a bigger bank account. Truly amusing stuff. 10-year-old-Esq logic.
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Seriously? a drug addict whose addiction costs the rest of us money imposes more costs on us than some movie star who can afford a 6 week stint at the Betty Ford Clinic
 
MildSteel said:
If you had to ask, you ain't never going to know.
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in other words, you just threw out some crap hoping it would stick and you have no ability to back up your claims.
 
TurtleDude said:
in other words, you just threw out some crap hoping it would stick and you have no ability to back up your claims.
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More of the same speculative BS with no empirical proof.
 
MildSteel said:
More of the same speculative BS with no empirical proof.
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you just don't seem to get how things work here. parroting back what people say about your lame posts is grade school level argument
 
Montecresto said:
Capitalists aren't immune to human rights violations in pursuit of their greed!

Resistance evidently licensed disproportionate retaliation. When crushing opposition in Ceylon in 1818, the British killed over 1% of the population. Thirty years later not a single European on the island perished in the only insurrection worthy of the name. But 200 alleged rebels were hanged or shot, and more were flogged or imprisoned. Governor Eyre's reprisals after the Morant Bay uprising in Jamaica followed the same pattern. In the wake of their disastrous retreat from Kabul in 1842, the British meted out enough retributive homicide to earn the perpetual enmity of Afghanistan. Burma, Kenya and Iraq were subjugated with equal violence. After the Indian mutiny soldiers such as Garnet Wolseley did much to fulfil their vow to spill "barrels and barrels of the filth which flows in these niggers' veins for every drop of blood" they had shed. During the South African war the British allowed a sixth of the Boer population, mostly children, to die in concentration camps.

Deny the British empire's crimes? No, we ignore them | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian

https://www.opendemocracy.net/article/globalisation/visions_reflections/british_empire
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That is correct. It goes on to this day in the form of killing innocent people in the Middle East to secure the flow of oil supplies for the sake of profit.
 
MildSteel said:
That is correct. It goes on to this day in the form of killing innocent people in the Middle East to secure the flow of oil supplies for the sake of profit.
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where is that happening?
 
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