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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well it is an abstraction. Actually some ruthless people love it. But it is likely that some ruthless people hate it as well.
    The really ruthless would go for tyranny.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The really ruthless would go for tyranny.
    What does that mean exactly?

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity. However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others.

    As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?
    No, capitalism has not increased hatred in the human race. Political agendas and $10's of millions in messaging have.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What does that mean exactly?
    That the ruthlessness of the capitalist is not only made possible by restrictions on the use of force and is so with an ameliorated form of brutality. It is also not the path of preference of the truly ruthless, who's systyle capitalism would cramp.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I agree with you on that. But what I would put forward is that capitalism by its nature, has a tendency to bring out the negative quality of hate in humans in general. Of course, it is there choice to nurture it, but a system that leverages greed will do that more so that a system that is more based on the notion of sharing. That is why, as someone else has indicated, there needs to be a balance.
    I've no problem with a balanced system, because as it stands now capitalism under our current system is far from the economic system put in place to breed competition. It smashes it to pieces and breeds power and force.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity. However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others.

    As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?
    Your premise is entirely wrong. Capitalism, as the name suggests, is a method of growing capital in order produce goods and services that people need and want. The investor and producer are motivated by a two fold reason. To first produce and provide and secondly to gain a return. The premise of capitalism is production not greed.
    "It is only when men contemplate the greatness of God that they can come to realize their own inadequacy." Jean Calvin

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    It is true that no system is immune to its influence. And part of the problem with the communism, at least how I understand it, is that it thinks it can be eradicated. That said, capitalism does seek to leverage greed, and in so doing encourages its growth. Greed is experienced to various degrees, depending on how individuals cultivate it. As such, the case can be made that capitalism creates conditions such that individuals are more prone to develop and cultivate greed which increases its growth. An increase in hate is the result. On the other hand, socialist models are more based on the notion of sharing. As such, the case can be made that they have the effect of limiting greed, although not eliminating it.
    Pure, unadulterated, bull****. Running a successful, for-profit business, is not synonymous with "greed". Fail.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    No, capitalism has not increased hatred in the human race. Political agendas and $10's of millions in messaging have.
    That is indeed part of it. But that is a result of capitalism.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That the ruthlessness of the capitalist is not only made possible by restrictions on the use of force and is so with an ameliorated form of brutality. It is also not the path of preference of the truly ruthless, who's systyle capitalism would cramp.
    I want to comment, but really don't understand what you mean by the ruthlessness of the capitalist is made possible by restrictions on the use of force. Furthermore I don't understand that first statement at all. I apologize for not being able to comprehend what you mean. Could you please explain further? There is something that I am missing.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That is indeed part of it. But that is a result of capitalism.
    No. Pick your -ism. It doesn't matter which one. Political agenda's and $10 of millions in messaging does the trick.

    Communism, Socialism, it doesn't matter. Pitting one against the other, the party faithful, against the agitators, the contributors against the takers. It doesn't matter. It's about power, no matter the -ism involved, and to get in and maintain it, it's agenda and message.

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