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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure. And that says nothing about an economic system.
    Yes, it does. And has been advanced at that expense.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Too little regulation is just as bad as too much regulation.
    Indubitably.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you have a problem with people being able to profit from their own labor and being able to own and operate businesses.
    No I don't, and as a matter of fact, in addition to my regular job, I have a very small business.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not hate people who profit from their labor and own and or operate businesses.There are actual legitimate reasons to hate someone.Someone making money is not a reason to hate someone.
    You don't have to directly hate someone for making money to be affected by hate that is a result of the effects of capitalism. For example, I am like you, I don't hate rich people for having or making money. But at the same time, although I don't hate someone like Dick Cheney in the sense that I want to see him harmed, I do have a repulsion for people like that because they don't mind killing innocent people to achieve their objectives which center around making money. Such repulsion is a form of hate, although it is not the type of hate that motivates one to want to destroy someone. That repulsion that I feel, is the result of the effects of capitalism and greed, in that I don't like what he does in order to support a system that is based on making money.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    If you read what I posted carefully you will note that not only did I recommend substantial reforms in education, I also briefly touched on reform to the political system. Now I could go further with all that, but I really did not want to get into that discussion in this thread because it is a topic all of its own. Basically the problem, as I see it, is that capitalism has resulted in people with wealth having far too much influence on our political and social system. I am not a fan of government interference in markets. Such interference distorts markets and can be exploited by powerful capitalists who can use their wealth to influence the political system to their advantage. That said, since we have the current system that we have, I don't think we have much choice but to regulate markets, but that is not a very good solution, in my opinion. Rather we need to cultivate a very strong intellectual class of educators that exercises as much or more influence on the political and social system as the capitalists. This would result in less dependence on strong government regulation in markets and should mitigate some of the bad effects of capitalism. Briefly, that is the alternative idea that I would put forward.
    Changing the political system doesn't necessarily mean changing the economic system. Capitalism is an economic system, your post didn't address that at all.
    I really dont see how having more intellectuals will result in a new economic system. Although I agree more education is generally better for society I fail to see how educators will exercise as much or more influence than capitalists. Already some teachers untions (Ontario's for example) exert much power this is largely due to the large amounts of stocks and mutual funds they control. Ie through a capitalist sytem.
    So I will try again:
    What I am asking is for you to post about alternatives to capitalism, one that can be used in a modern large scale society.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Changing the political system doesn't necessarily mean changing the economic system. Capitalism is an economic system, your post didn't address that at all.
    I really dont see how having more intellectuals will result in a new economic system. Although I agree more education is generally better for society I fail to see how educators will exercise as much or more influence than capitalists. Already some teachers untions (Ontario's for example) exert much power this is largely due to the large amounts of stocks and mutual funds they control. Ie through a capitalist sytem.
    So I will try again:
    What I am asking is for you to post about alternatives to capitalism, one that can be used in a modern large scale society.
    What you don't see is that changes to the ideological, sociological, and political system will have an effect on the economic system. Basically, markets should be free of unnecessary government interference. Basically, capitalists should be allowed to possess private property for the sake of making a profit. The problem is that currently capitalists have far too much influence on the ideological system, far to much influence on the sociological system, and far too much influence on the political system. There influence on the ideological system can be observed by noting that people have been conditioned to believe that the constant consumption of mundane goods results in happiness, and that the possession of wealth is symptomatic of success in life. There is very little emphasis placed on ideals such as the cultivation of knowledge, simplicity, humility, austerity, mercy, and tolerance. Rather if a person uses curse words and dances in public semi nude to accumulate vast amounts of wealth, that is seen as success. It is totally backwards.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No need for alternatives. Capitalism is a good model, SO LONG AS it's tightly regulated, so that all reap its rewards. And there's the rub. Conservatives hate regulation.
    why should those who contribute nothing reap any rewards?



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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity. However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others.

    As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?
    Ehhhh...capitalism unbound is a very bad thing, as Tennessee Ernie Ford described in his song about in Sixteen Tons. On the other hand complete socialism is a very bad thing, too.

    What is needed is properly-regulated capitalism and properly-limited socialism. Neither too much nor too little of either one.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What you don't see is that changes to the ideological, sociological, and political system will have an effect on the economic system. Basically, markets should be free of unnecessary government interference. Basically, capitalists should be allowed to possess private property for the sake of making a profit. The problem is that currently capitalists have far too much influence on the ideological system, far to much influence on the sociological system, and far too much influence on the political system. There influence on the ideological system can be observed by noting that people have been conditioned to believe that the constant consumption of mundane goods results in happiness, and that the possession of wealth is symptomatic of success in life. There is very little emphasis placed on ideals such as the cultivation of knowledge, simplicity, humility, austerity, mercy, and tolerance. Rather if a person uses curse words and dances in public semi nude to accumulate vast amounts of wealth, that is seen as success. It is totally backwards.
    So your alternative to capitalism is capitalism?
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Ehhhh...capitalism unbound is a very bad thing, as Tennessee Ernie Ford described in his song about in Sixteen Tons. On the other hand complete socialism is a very bad thing, too.

    What is needed is properly-regulated capitalism and properly-limited socialism. Neither too much nor too little of either one.
    What is needed is markets that run relatively free of government interference, a sense that everyone has something of value to contribute and that anyone who wants to work according to their aptitude can provide for their sustenance, AND an intellectual class that is devoted to the cultivation of knowledge that welds strong influence on the ideological, political and sociological aspects of society. People who want to make money are important, and they should be allowed some freedom to use the inherent greed in their natures to do so. They just should not have too much influence on the other aspects of society.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    So your alternative to capitalism is capitalism?
    No because capitalism in itself results in people with wealth having too much influence over the other aspects of society. There needs to be another aspect, an intellectualism that is free from the influence of capitalists that can balance its ill effects.

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