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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Everyone is capable of contributing productive work. Those who work hard to make sure that the environment is not filled with garbage deserve to be fed, clothed, and housed at the very least.
    Why? Please be specific.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Obviously you don't care about what I have said.
    Exactly.

    Because you are wrong.

    This is what is called a clue.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Hitler to Stalin: The most murderous regimes in the world | Daily Mail Online

    What is the one thing these regimes do NOT have in common?
    Capitalists aren't immune to human rights violations in pursuit of their greed!

    Resistance evidently licensed disproportionate retaliation. When crushing opposition in Ceylon in 1818, the British killed over 1% of the population. Thirty years later not a single European on the island perished in the only insurrection worthy of the name. But 200 alleged rebels were hanged or shot, and more were flogged or imprisoned. Governor Eyre's reprisals after the Morant Bay uprising in Jamaica followed the same pattern. In the wake of their disastrous retreat from Kabul in 1842, the British meted out enough retributive homicide to earn the perpetual enmity of Afghanistan. Burma, Kenya and Iraq were subjugated with equal violence. After the Indian mutiny soldiers such as Garnet Wolseley did much to fulfil their vow to spill "barrels and barrels of the filth which flows in these niggers' veins for every drop of blood" they had shed. During the South African war the British allowed a sixth of the Boer population, mostly children, to die in concentration camps.

    Deny the British empire's crimes? No, we ignore them | George Monbiot | Comment is free | The Guardian

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/articl...british_empire
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Why? Please be specific.
    Because human beings did not create the natural resources on which prosperity is based. As such, the notion of justice requires that everyone is entitled to use them for their sustenance. If the government is going to protect property rights and the wealth of those who possess wealth, then government also has a responsibility to see to it that those who engage in productive work, such as cleaning garbage, are able to provide themselves with the basic necessities.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Exactly.

    Because you are wrong.

    This is what is called a clue.
    More garbage.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Because human beings did not create the natural resources on which prosperity is based. As such, the notion of justice requires that everyone is entitled to use them for their sustenance. If the government is going to protect property rights and the wealth of those who possess wealth, then government also has a responsibility to see to it that those who engage in productive work, such as cleaning garbage, are able to provide themselves with the basic necessities.
    Where is the government not protecting the property rights and wealth of those who clean garbage?

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Where is the government not protecting the property rights and wealth of those who clean garbage?
    Where did I say that the government was not doing that?

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    1. "Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity." This a straw man. Capitalism is an economic system which allows people to trade their capacity for production into goods and services they want or need. It's the only successful economic system which mankind has created.
    Straw man? Interesting. Likely an alt account.

    Regardless, capitalism is based on the notion of the private ownership for the sake of profit in economic transactions. That requires getting out more in the form of capital than one puts in. Greed is based on the notion of the desire to have more than one has. As such, capitalism leverages greed. It is not a straw man.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    2. "However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others." This is foolish psycobabble. Greed can be a negative force but it can also be force which drives people to succeed. It's the way the fruits of greed are applied that determines it's value.
    Selfishness is based on the desire to possess things to the exclusion of others. This mentality of exclusion breeds hatred of others. Therefore the assertion that selfishness produces hatred of others is not foolish.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    3. "As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?" An illogical premise based on a logical fallacy.
    It is a logical premise based on sound rational reasoning. Nothing that you have said has refuted the assertion.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Everyone is capable of contributing productive work. Those who work hard to make sure that the environment is not filled with garbage deserve to be fed, clothed, and housed at the very least.
    That works both ways - those that are fed, clothed and housed owe productive work, at the very least, in exchange for that reward.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That works both ways - those that are fed, clothed and housed owe productive work, at the very least, in exchange for that reward.
    Absolutely. Giving people what they need for there sustenance without requiring them to work for it only encourages unnecessary dependence. That said, there may be some instances such as when someone is disabled where that might be necessary.

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