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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    The short answer is yes. Competition for resources which are controlled by a small fraction of the world's population and artificial scarcity created by this same group causes hatred.
    success causes those who fail to hate those who succeed.



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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Since you don't believe me, here's what Adam Smith had to say



    Many experts have observed that capitalism creates vast income inequality



    Is Wealth and Income Inequality Inevitable in a Capitalist System? | Pragmatic Capitalism

    Marx also noted that because capitalists want to maximize profit, they are motivated to keep wages as low as possible. The result is income inequality.

    So, there is indeed support to the notion that capitalism produces vast income inequality.

    There is also support to the notion that income inequality is on the rise. Here is something from Pew Research



    U.S. income inequality, on rise for decades, is now highest since 1928 | Pew Research Center

    At the same time there is a rise in the number of hate groups



    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/us...port-says.html

    So at the very least there is a correlation in the rise in hate groups and the rise in income inequality.

    The OECD report explicitly links income inequality to resentment



    https://books.google.com/books?id=ci...ntment&f=false

    So there you go. There is indeed support to the notion that capitalism has increased hatred.
    So what are you purporting? Eat the rich? That worked out very well for the French, back in the day.

    Legislate and regulate capitalism into non-existence?

    Far more worry some would be the inability to work your way from the bottom to the top, and on that count, the US as does most other capitalistic systems, fares quite well.

    Class in America: Mobility, measured | The Economist

    Overestimating 'inequality'

    To Fix Income Inequality, The Have-Nots Must Become The Do-Somethings

    You think all this is baloney? Guess you'd call the US Treasury full of baloney then.

    DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY: Income Mobility in the U.S. from 1996 to 2005
    November 13, 2007
    http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...3-08revise.pdf

    This is how the left sees the market: a zero-sum game.
    If someone makes money, he took it from everyone else. The more the rich have, the less others have. It's as if the economy is a pie that's already on the table, waiting to be carved. The bigger the piece the rich take, the less that's left for everyone else.

    The economy is just a fight over who gets how much. But this is absurd.

    Bill Gates took a huge slice of pie, but he didn't take it from me. By starting Microsoft, he baked millions of new pies. He made the rest of the world richer, too.
    So what if rich people have more money than poor people in 2014 | Fox News

    Examine inequality

    In U.S., 60% Satisfied With Ability to Get Ahead

    So the majority of Americans just happen not to agree with you and your assessment.

    Good thing to, because income inequality across the globe is falling, not raising.

    Global Income Inequality is Falling | Pragmatic Capitalism
    More on Falling Global Income Inequality | Pragmatic Capitalism
    Income Inequality Is Not Rising Globally. It's Falling.

    So I'm not seeing your problem with capitalism, which in 20 years, has raised the income level and standard of living for the multitudes across the globe, for far more people than any other economic system has ever done.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    I think that neither capitalism nor socialism, nor any other government system, (unless we're talking one that intentionally and knowingly includes mistreatment of certain parties)....causes hate, greed, or any other emotion.

    Rather, the people who operate within the provided framework cause these things.

    Ideally, you would want a framework that prevented the vast majority of negatives - but so far we (as in, humans) haven't seemed able to make that happen.
    Education.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    So what are you purporting?
    Obviously you don't care about what I have said.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Not sure why lefties are so unhealthily ibsessed with the issue of 'equality'.

    Unless it's equality brfore the law, inequality is hard-wired into nature, expecially human nature.

    Equality is not worth the loss of a moment's sleep. I rather LIKE inequality, actually: that there are people smarter, fitter, richer than myself that i can compete with and measure myself against and therefore improve my condition.

    Three cheers for inequality!

    The proper measure of the success of an economic system is if it favours sicial and economic mobility and prevents vast numbers of the desperately poor to exist without hope of bettering themselves.

    By this standard--the only sensible one--nothing in anyone's lifetime or their great-great-great grandchildren's lifetimes can ever hope to improve on capitalism.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by hobgoblin View Post
    Not sure why lefties are so unhealthily ibsessed with the issue of 'equality'.

    Unless it's equality brfore the law, inequality is hard-wired into nature, expecially human nature.

    Equality is not worth the loss of a moment's sleep. I rather LIKE inequality, actually: that there are people smarter, fitter, richer than myself that i can compete with and measure myself against and therefore improve my condition.

    Three cheers for inequality!

    The proper measure of the success of an economic system is if it favours sicial and economic mobility and prevents vast numbers of the desperately poor to exist without hope of bettering themselves.

    By this standard--the only sensible one--nothing in anyone's lifetime or their great-great-great grandchildren's lifetimes can ever hope to improve on capitalism.
    The current system in the USA is not working well enough. It needs improved.

    Additionally, I'm not sure the current possibilities for social and economic mobility are anywhere near as high as they ought to be.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    If one contributes an appetite then do they deserve to be rewarded with a meal?
    Everyone is capable of contributing productive work. Those who work hard to make sure that the environment is not filled with garbage deserve to be fed, clothed, and housed at the very least.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by hobgoblin View Post
    Not sure why lefties are so unhealthily ibsessed with the issue of 'equality'.

    Unless it's equality brfore the law, inequality is hard-wired into nature, expecially human nature.
    If that was directed at me, you are entirely off base if you think or have said here that everyone should be equal.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    success causes those who fail to hate those who succeed.
    Everyone has productive work that they can contribute. They are not failures when they do so. Of course you may need to believe that for the sake of your ego, but it is not true.

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