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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    If one isnt mature, emotions will get the best them.

    So logically you and I live in a Capitalistic society, right? Then why are we not greedy bastards looking for profit and nothing else even if we exploit others? Are we special, more special than anyone else? Wouldnt our existence present a flaw in the assertion that Capitalism causes greed?
    Personally, I think that if anything is a cause, it's greed, not capitalism.

    I think greed brings out the worst in capitalism.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I think that if anything is a cause, it's greed, not capitalism.

    I think greed brings out the worst in capitalism.
    Greed brings out the worse in everyone no matter the economic system.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Greed brings out the worse in everyone no matter the economic system.
    True...I suppose that, really, greed, hatred, and other such bring out the worst in people in general, whatever the governmental system in use.

    And it's unlikely anyone will try to form a governmental system that is better at preventing such, or modify an existing one for the same purpose....


    Because the people in charge have much of those issues themselves
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Capitalism might give a means to express some people's hatred or empathy, but I don't think that capitalism inherently promotes hatred or empathy, anything else with an emotional basis.
    It does not inherently promote hatred or empathy. What it does, by its intrinsic nature, is to create an environment that is favorable to the development of hatred, more so than systems that are based on the ideas that resources should be shared. This is because capitalism places an emphasis on increased production for increased personal profit in terms of capital. As such it intrinsically requires increased consumption to drive such increases in production. As a result of this people must be conditioned to constantly increase their consumption of goods. This results in increased competition for scarce resources, which results in an increase in greed. This increase in greed in turn produces an increase in hatred, more so than a system that is centered on the notion that resources should be shared.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Emphatically no. Talk to someone from Eastern Europe sometime who lived under Communism and ask them who they hated, the Capitalists in the West or the Communists. They'll just about lecture you about the ills of communism until you're deaf. Communists are generally hated far more by the people they represent than capitalists.

    The average peasant is far better off thanks to capitalism and they know it.
    I am not saying that communism is without faults. Neither have I said that the people of Eastern Europe prefer communism to capitalism. What I am saying is that capitalism creates an environment such that the quality of hatred will develop, more so than a system that is based on the notion that resources should be shared. What you have put forward does nothing to dispute that assertion.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    If one isnt mature, emotions will get the best them.

    So logically you and I live in a Capitalistic society, right? Then why are we not greedy bastards looking for profit and nothing else even if we exploit others? Are we special, more special than anyone else? Wouldnt our existence present a flaw in the assertion that Capitalism causes greed?
    Although you are correct in that if a person is not mature, their emotions will get the best of them, it does not mean that even those who are mature enough to control them are free from the effects of greed. And to see this one need only to note that there is an increase in the sentiment that the government should not use tax money to do things like provide increased educational opportunities and health care to the less fortunate, more so than say perhaps 50 years ago.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I think that if anything is a cause, it's greed, not capitalism.

    I think greed brings out the worst in capitalism.
    Capitalism is the product of greed. And it is for this reason that it creates an environment that is conducive to the development of greed.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Unregulated, predatory capitalism, no doubt. The protections and regulations installed during the FDR administration gave rise to a four decade growth of a strong middle class. But deregulation and 30+ years of Reaganomics have eroded those gains.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Capitalism is the product of greed. And it is for this reason that it creates an environment that is conducive to the development of greed.
    Capitalism is the product of freedom where a person is free to produce whatever product they want. Capitalism also helps promote failure where people are free to produce a product that no one wants. Everything else is just conjecture on your part. You still haven't, that I've seen, propose a solution to a problem you are asserting exists.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Capitalism is the product of freedom where a person is free to produce whatever product they want.
    It is the product of the desire to be free to pursue profit which is a product of greed.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Capitalism also helps promote failure where people are free to produce a product that no one wants. Everything else is just conjecture on your part.
    The assertion that I have put forward is based on rational reasoning and is backed by observation. As I said earlier, one only need to look to the rise in the sentiment that the government should not use tax money to provide increased educational opportunities and health care for those who are less fortunate for evidence that this is taking place.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You still haven't, that I've seen, propose a solution to a problem you are asserting exists.
    If that is a concern of yours start a thread and we can talk about it.

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