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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Capitalism might give a means to express some people's hatred or empathy, but I don't think that capitalism inherently promotes hatred or empathy, anything else with an emotional basis.

    What you find you your heart is what capitalism might give greater means for expression.

    So really, doesn't the question become 'are people more hating now than before', and to that question, I'd have to say no.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    I believe the best form of capitalism has to have checks and balances thrown into the mix in order to promote the growth of a large, thriving middle class. Capitalism, in its purest form and without government intervention will lead to monopolization, abuse of resources, crowding out of competition, etc. When government limits monopolization, sets boundaries on corporate structure, etc a middle class is allowed to flourish, spend money, create the demand for competition, etc.

    When government lays in bed with big business, capitalism dies and oligarchy thrives. This is what we are seeing around the world today, especially in America. Innovation and hard work cannot enter the market in such a system, where big business can stamp out any competition.

    When government places too much control on business, socialism thrives and capitalism isn't allowed to flourish. This promotes a large lower class, where very few are allowed to excel up the ladder due to innovation and hard work.

    Neither one is good. We need balance in capitalism.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Sure there are people that are cynical enough to look at it that way. But that doesnt mean that everyone has such bias.
    Well me personally, I try very hard not to bear malice towards others in my mind. But I am not totally free from it, neither am I totally free from the quality of greed. They are qualities that one has to make the effort to avoid, otherwise they will consume a person. I have seen it happen even to people who mean well. But they become so absorbed in their self righteousness that they cannot see that they are being victimized by those qualities.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I would argue that such production and return, in practical terms, are based on the notion of greed. It is simply a part of human nature. The question is how to create an environment such that it does not develop to the extent that it becomes destructive to human civilization.
    Production and return are not based on greed. They are based on Love, or at least a concern for creating a better standard of living for fellow human beings. Sure one can find instances where harm was caused, knowingly, for the sake of profit; however that is the exception not the rule.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Production and return are not based on greed. They are based on Love, or at least a concern for creating a better standard of living for fellow human beings. Sure one can find instances where harm was caused, knowingly, for the sake of profit; however that is the exception not the rule.
    Ok, whatever you say. But love is based on wanting to please the object of one's affection, even to the point of being willing to undergo perpetual suffering if it means that the object of one's affection is made happy by it. So if you think that is the way capitalist systems operate, then there is nothing I can say.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    To be honest, I really haven't had any experience living under a socialist system. But one thing that I have observed is that the persons who really feel passionate enough about it that they can make it happen as a reality tend to become absorbed in a sense of self righteousness to the point where they start to feel that anyone who does not agree with them is an enemy that must be put down to one degree or another. Although the ideology is attractive in theory, personally I find that aspect disturbing. I don't think that is part of the ideology, but still, it makes me uncomfortable with it. Part of the reason is that, as I mentioned earlier, I have seen time and time again that people who mean well can sometimes become absorbed in such self righteousness that results in destructive behavior. Just saying.

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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    I don't think there is any possible way you could prove or disprove that statement/question. Too many variables.

    Personally, I think people are people, and people haven't really changed that much in quite awhile.

    What has changed is how much access we have to info on damn near anything we want to know/believe.

    So it may seem like more hatred exists, but I think it's just more visible.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Of course not... what causes hatred is injustice and that accompanies all systems of government.
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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Capitalism leverages the greed in humans to fuel productivity. However, greed is based on selfishness, which produces hatred of others.

    As such, has the advance in capitalism resulted in an increase in hatred in the human race?

    Emphatically no. Talk to someone from Eastern Europe sometime who lived under Communism and ask them who they hated, the Capitalists in the West or the Communists. They'll just about lecture you about the ills of communism until you're deaf. Communists are generally hated far more by the people they represent than capitalists.



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    Re: Has capitalism increased hatred in the human race?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well me personally, I try very hard not to bear malice towards others in my mind. But I am not totally free from it, neither am I totally free from the quality of greed. They are qualities that one has to make the effort to avoid, otherwise they will consume a person. I have seen it happen even to people who mean well. But they become so absorbed in their self righteousness that they cannot see that they are being victimized by those qualities.
    If one isnt mature, emotions will get the best them.

    So logically you and I live in a Capitalistic society, right? Then why are we not greedy bastards looking for profit and nothing else even if we exploit others? Are we special, more special than anyone else? Wouldnt our existence present a flaw in the assertion that Capitalism causes greed?

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