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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    This will depend on your definitions of course. The organisation is consisted of mostly ordinary citizens, and polls have showed that many Germans agree with the sentiment of their demonstrations. There is nothing « racist » about their concerns, which are legitimate.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lmao, hmmm let's see here. You claim that it can be said of any organization. I then post a link to an organization and ask you to prove your claim, and you show a link to a murder under investigation in another country entirely. Are you kidding?
    Well the group that claims to be responsible for those murders is an "anti racist" group.

    But then again keep up this game, it what leftist do best..

    God I hope you leftist feel the sting of Islam the hardest.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian View Post
    This will depend on your definitions of course. The organisation is consisted of mostly ordinary citizens, and polls have showed that many Germans agree with the sentiment of their demonstrations. There is nothing « racist » about their concerns, which are legitimate.
    Tell that to the leftist who think people wanting to protect and defend their culture, values, heritage, nation and race is a bad thing or evil..

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Which is also what the EDL says, their actions speak otherwise.
    Indeed and actions is what I'm referring to here.
    The general atmosphere in PEGIDA demonstrations seems to be miles away from the bigotry observed in the average EDL demonstration.
    I see no fault at people who decide to protest against the effects radical Islam has had on Europe.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Well the group that claims to be responsible for those murders is an "anti racist" group.
    Oh, boy. Is the group that committed the murders in your link THE SAME as the group I asked you about? Yes or no answer.
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So many strawman. You just claimed that cops won't go in these places. Were those not cops in those places? I can wait for you to admit a simple point. Then we can move on to your other claims.
    In those videos, at those points in time, yes there were. You do know that time moves on and those police are not there, right? You do know those police refuse to enter into some areas unless they are in a min number right?

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh, boy. Is the group that committed the murders in your link THE SAME as the group I asked you about? Yes or no answer.
    So you are changing the subject why are we not supervised?

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Indeed and actions is what I'm referring to here.
    The general atmosphere in PEGIDA demonstrations seems to be miles away from the bigotry observed in the average EDL demonstration.
    I see no fault at people who decide to protest against the effects radical Islam has had on Europe.
    Hmm, an Isreali who sympathizes with a group whose leader has a Hitler moustache and hates immigrants. Thats interesting.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Indeed and actions is what I'm referring to here.
    The general atmosphere in PEGIDA demonstrations seems to be miles away from the bigotry observed in the average EDL demonstration.
    I see no fault at people who decide to protest against the effects radical Islam has had on Europe.
    German leaders condemn xenophobia after Pegida protests | World news | The Guardian

    Bild’s deputy editor Bela Anda, wrote in an editorial to accompany the open letter: “They [the signatories] are saying no to xenophobia and yes to diversity and tolerance … We should not hand over our streets to hollow rallying cries.”

    Angela Merkel called for people to turn their backs on Pegida in her New Year’s speech, saying the group was “full of prejudice, a chilliness, even hatred”.
    But elsewhere in Germany, counter-demonstrations for the first time far outweighed the anti-immigrant rallies, with around 30,000 taking a stand against Pegida marches in Stuttgart, Hamburg, Cologne and Berlin.

    In Cologne, church authorities turned off the lights of its Gothic cathedral, one of Germany’s most popular tourist attractions, to prevent the protesters using it as a backdrop. The Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, Dresden’s opera house, the Semperoper, the carmaker Volkswagen’s headquarters in Wolfsburg, and numerous museums, public buildings and private homes across the country were also plunged into darkness.
    So in short, tens of thousands of counter protesters, the German Chancellor, AND Germany's churches have all come to the conclusion that PEGIDA is pretty xenophobic if not racist. Do you believe there is a reason for this or some conspiracy to silence PEGIDA supporters?
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Hmm, an Isreali who sympathizes with a group whose leader has a Hitler moustache and hates immigrants. Thats interesting.
    Bachmann is not the leader anymore. A group is more than its leader especially when the group is organising public demonstrations.

    Hundreds of thousands of Germans have turned out to oppose immigration and Islam and the effect it has had on their nation. There's nothing fringe or radical about the movement.

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