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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It couldn't possibly be because they associate with far right groups and engage in violence. There must be a conspiracy.



    Sorry... What? Look. My question isn't about whether you believe their concerns are legitimate or not. As a matter of fact, I couldn't care less whether you support or don't support them. My question regards whether they are a racist organization pretending to be something else. As it stands, the leaders of PEGIDA have shown themselves to lean towards being racists. That alone should raise some serious flags about whether the organization is or isn't racist. Do you disagree?
    You could make those claims about any group, including those that claim themselves "anti racist".

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    True...It is always his right to leave to non White nations and live among them.

    Its funny he does not do his own research yet he blames you...
    You are one of the reasons it is becoming a racist organization. Stop using the word "White Nation" as it does not work. Europe is not a white nation. You should be fine with those of middle eastern decent. Islam is a regime that has every race carrying out its death wish.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    ll.

    I've watched a video from one of the demonstrations, one of the leaders was standing there saying that they don't have to fear radical Islam anymore and how they do not advocate any action against non-radical Muslims and only have a problem with the radical Muslims.
    So labeling such movement as racist seems to be wrong.
    Which is also what the EDL says, their actions speak otherwise.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Any video you post can only be replaced by another that does show the truth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf31HbHLRwA

    If you wish to believe that PEGIDA are not concerned with their lack of government interference in Europe when it comes to terrorism, crime and other such things that stem from Islam, such as when the artist who drew the "prophet" was shot down along with 12 others, and that all of Europe is a peaceful place where Jews are not discriminated against just for being Jewish and Islamist teaching of radicalism is not on the rise, that is fine. I did write that it is becoming a racist origination, but it didn't start that way.
    I've been waiting for you to contradict yourself. Did you actually watch your video? At the 0:56 mark you have police in these supposed no-go zones that you JUST claimed the police won't go into. But please, please stop it you're looking foolish when the Mayor of Paris is threatening to sue people for spreading false allegations about places that don't exist:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/21/wo...-go-zones.html

    Apparently unmoved by the Fox News channel’s on-air apology to “the people of France” for broadcasting the false claim that areas of Paris are Muslim-ruled enclaves — or “no-go zones” outside the control of the state — the city’s mayor announced Tuesday that she intended to take legal action against the network.

    In an interview with CNN and a subsequent Facebook update, Mayor Anne Hidalgo said that the “very shocking, stupid” and “insulting remarks” from Fox News anchors and guests, indicating that parts of her city were as insecure as Iraq or Afghanistan, had so “damaged the reputation and honor of Paris and Parisians” that she felt compelled “to go to court in order to have these words removed.”
    Please, please stop it. You're basically taking the words of some no name debunked source over the people who live in these cities. Are you serious?
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Yeah I take the words of people live near the no go zone over people like you who claim they do not exist...
    Im actually very curiious about this. Iīve lived in predominantly Muslim areas in both England and Spain and have never had an issue coming or going, thats not to say the situation isnīt different in France, Belgium or Germany. Its just hard to belive what the media says. So what do these people say?

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    You could make those claims about any group, including those that claim themselves "anti racist".
    Ah, when everything else fails, claim that everyone else is racist too. That's not how the real world works, my young friend. However, you said the same claims could be made of ANY group. So, let's find you a group and see if you can show them doing the SAME things as PEGIDA:

    SOS Racisme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'll wait for you to show them doing the same things and thus allowing the same claims to be made.
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I've been waiting for you to contradict yourself. Did you actually watch your video? At the 0:56 mark you have police in these supposed no-go zones that you JUST claimed the police won't go into. But please, please stop it you're looking foolish when the Mayor of Paris is threatening to sue people for spreading false allegations about places that don't exist:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/21/wo...-go-zones.html



    Please, please stop it. You're basically taking the words of some no name debunked source over the people who live in these cities. Are you serious?
    Did you miss the part where I said that cops are allowed to enter, but a lot do not out of fear?

    lets not pretend like the one cop you saw in the video proves anything. One cop actually doing his job doesn't mean a lot don't look the other way.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    You are one of the reasons it is becoming a racist organization. Stop using the word "White Nation" as it does not work. Europe is not a white nation. You should be fine with those of middle eastern decent. Islam is a regime that has every race carrying out its death wish.
    ..No they are White nations, they always have been. Yes Islam is such a regime.

    I am fine with a few, but when a alien race is set to over come the population of a nation then it is a problem.

    Arabs have no right or claim to Europe, it belongs to the people of each and every nation, but nothing.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Im actually very curiious about this. Iīve lived in predominantly Muslim areas in both England and Spain and have never had an issue coming or going, thats not to say the situation isnīt different in France, Belgium or Germany. Its just hard to belive what the media says. So what do these people say?
    They say they can not go in, that native women who go in are fair game for rape gangs, that police refuse to enter unless they are 3 cars or more in number.

    Use Google.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    ..No they are White nations, they always have been. Yes Islam is such a regime.

    I am fine with a few, but when a alien race is set to over come the population of a nation then it is a problem.

    Arabs have no right or claim to Europe, it belongs to the people of each and every nation, but nothing.
    as long as the nation remains a true democracy, it doesn't matter what the biggest race is. As long as my kids and grandchildren don't have to worry about being shot for speaking about their religion, I'm okay.

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