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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    LOL you support a group
    Movement.

    with a leader
    Is he? To my best knowledge he's not the leader anymore.

    who calls asylum seekers scumbags, stupid cows and trash and then made a self portrait of himself as Hitler
    I've never shown support for that racist, xenophobic asshole.

    you do know what Hitler did to Jews right? Apparently you dont care.
    Lie.

    Perhaps you ought to go to your barber and get the same moustache since you admire PEGIDA so much.
    So I'm Hitler now. Got it.
    You clearly have issues.
    You wish to paint anyone who takes part at the PEGIDA movement as a racist? Go ahead and do so. But try doing so without engaging in your usual lies that are meant to cover for your sickeningly immoral agenda to defend radical Islam and attack anyone who confronts it.
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    That may well be the case in many other countries, where the government dispenses what passes for rights. Too bad for them. But as an American, I live in a free country. And part of that freedom is that any person here may hate the living guts of anyone he damn well pleases, for any reason whatever--the person's race, religion, sex, or the way they part their hair. If someone else thinks that bigotry is wrong, he's free to condemn it--but the bigot is just as free to ignore the condemnation and go right on hating.

    We have due process of law here, and that means, among other things, that our laws punish only actions, not thoughts. There is no law that says anyone has to like anyone else or have anything to do with them. I'm sure that is anathema to leftists everywhere, who want to force everyone to do the things they think are kind, noble, and wonderful--or else. To hell with the bossy little prigs.
    Well good for you, as said, every nation/people gets to choose what laws and civil rights they want enforced. People can think personally and privately think and say what they want, but when they say it publicly to discriminate and hate monger/promote racist behavior and violence, then the law says that this is illegal and I love living in a country where the most horrendous racist comments can be prosecuted. Most racist words would most likely not get prosecuted, the media and the public will nail his/her hide to the wall.

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    Suppose they don't want to leave. Maybe they think Europe is just the place for jihadist violence. Maybe they have plans to make it part of Allah's realm as soon as they outnumber the locals, and force them to do whatever they say. What will you do then, fall on your knees and plead with them to be nice to you? If you are counting on their fellow Muslims to talk sweet reason to them, you are fooling yourself.
    Well, as long as they do not break any laws that make it legal to remove them, then they will be able to stay. Especially if they have a Dutch/German/French/English passport/nationality. The grounds for removing the nationality from someone are very limited, terror for example or better yet, fighting for a foreign terrorist group is grounds for loss of passport.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    So you want me to prove a negative? You and logic ain't the closest friends are you?
    If you believe that they are racist in their nature then you will prove it, until I see such proof I am not convinced that they are, period.
    Hey pal, you made the statement, not me. I simply asked you to back it up.

    So, in other words, you have ZERO unbiased, factual proof of your statement.

    Noted.
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Btw...this is from Wikipedia:

    'Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the West[note 1] (German: Patriotische Europšer gegen die Islamisierung des Abendlandes), abbreviated PEGIDA and Pegida, is a German right-wing anti-Islam[1][2][3] political organization founded in Dresden in October 2014. It has been organizing weekly demonstrations against what it considers the islamization of the Western world, calling for more restrictive immigration rules, particularly for Muslims.'

    'Growing weekly counter-protests all over the country started to outnumber Pegida protesters in January 2015. German politicians, clergy and industry leaders have called PEGIDA xenophobic and islamophobic'


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    Sounds extremely prejudiced to me.


    I mean how pathetic can you be to start judging all people strictly by their religion?

    This is just another group of morons and/or hate-filled people who haven't got the guts to fix their own problems, so they conveniently blame others for all that is wrong. Just like Nazi's and the KKK and every group of prejudiced losers.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Btw...this is from Wikipedia:

    'Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the West[note 1] (German: Patriotische Europšer gegen die Islamisierung des Abendlandes), abbreviated PEGIDA and Pegida, is a German right-wing anti-Islam[1][2][3] political organization founded in Dresden in October 2014. It has been organizing weekly demonstrations against what it considers the islamization of the Western world, calling for more restrictive immigration rules, particularly for Muslims.'

    'Growing weekly counter-protests all over the country started to outnumber Pegida protesters in January 2015. German politicians, clergy and industry leaders have called PEGIDA xenophobic and islamophobic'


    Pegida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Sounds extremely prejudiced to me.


    I mean how pathetic can you be to start judging all people strictly by their religion?

    This is just another group of morons and/or hate-filled people who haven't got the guts to fix their own problems, so they conveniently blame others for all that is wrong. Just like Nazi's and the KKK and every group of prejudiced losers.
    Yup. Whats disturbing is that the people who defend this group keep saying its not racist yet if you substitute blacks or Jews with what this group labels as Muslim it would be completely unacceptable by anyone yet because its Muslims they are targeting then in their minds it makes it OK. And the only reason their leader quit was because he got exposed by the German media- if it wasnt for that he would still be leading this group.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    ..No they are White nations, they always have been. Yes Islam is such a regime.

    I am fine with a few, but when a alien race is set to over come the population of a nation then it is a problem.


    Arabs have no right or claim to Europe, it belongs to the people of each and every nation, but nothing.


    You do know that in about 30 years non-Hispanic Whites will no longer be the majority of the USA's population, eh?

    What do you plan to do about that?

    Fill us in.

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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1389 View Post
    Wow, you found 4 cops in a no-go zone when I stated that a lot of cops do not go out of fear. Totally blew all those videos away...
    And of course there are police stations there. It is not ISLAMIST CONTROLLED.
    Cops do face opposition when trying to STOP CRIME.
    they do not face opposition for BEING COPS.


    That's going on all over this planet in every country. The cops are on one side and the bad guys are on the other side.

    This has been going on since people climbed down out of the trees, it's nothing new.




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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Hey pal, you made the statement, not me. I simply asked you to back it up.

    So, in other words, you have ZERO unbiased, factual proof of your statement.

    Noted.
    The only thing that should be noted is that you believe that a negative can and should be proven.
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    Re: Is PEGIDA a racist movement pretending not to be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian View Post
    Bachmann is not the leader anymore. A group is more than its leader especially when the group is organising public demonstrations.

    Hundreds of thousands of Germans have turned out to oppose immigration and Islam and the effect it has had on their nation. There's nothing fringe or radical about the movement.


    Millions of Germans supported the Nazis. How are the Nazi's doing now?

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