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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The overarching external economic purpose of the EEU is increased trade relations with China and the ten member ASEAN bloc. The EU is incidental to this core objective.
    Not true

    Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have agreed to set up a full-fledged economic bloc that should act as a bridge between Europe and Asia and a counterweight to Western integration unions.
    Three-nation Eurasian union set up as bridge - The Hindu

    Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan signed the historic Eurasian Economic Union which will come into effect in January 2015. Cutting down trade barriers and comprising over 170 million people it will be the largest common market in the ex-Soviet sphere.

    "The just-signed treaty is of epoch-making, historic importance," Russian President Vladimir Putin said.
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    "A new geopolitical reality of the 21st century is born,” Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev said shortly after the final treaty was signed by the three leaders.

    “We see this as an open space and a new bridge between the growing economies of Europe and Asia,” Nazarbayev added.
    Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan sign ?epoch' Eurasian Economic Union ? RT Business

    The Russian ambassador to the European Union has, on the founding-day of the new Moscow-led Eurasian Union, invited members of the European Union to abandon their close ties and pending trade agreement with the United States and instead join with Russia.

    The invitation came alongside a dose of ridicule aimed at the United States, including a jibe at America’s food health standards, which are often quite different to those in Europe. Russia, Belarus, Armenia, and Kazakhstan signed the new Eurasian Union into existence on New Years day, which replaces a former customs union, and Kyrgyzstan will join later.

    Russia had initially hoped the Ukraine would join the Union at its inception, however a strong preference for joining the European Union among citizens of the West of the nation led to a bitter civil war last year that has seen the nation split into a number of factions and territories. Despite that, the Russian ambassador didn’t believe there was any reason why the Ukraine crisis should prove a stumbling block to Eurasian and European Union integration.

    According to Russian-backed news service Sputnik, the Eurasian Union “intends to avoid some of the mistakes that have blighted and burdened the European Union — in particular, the imbalances in migration that have created serious domestic problems for member states such as UK that attract large numbers of migrant workers from other, poorer EU countries”.

    Speaking to European news service EUobserver, Russian ambassador Vladimir Chizhov said: “Our idea is to start official contacts between the EU and the EAEU as soon as possible. Chancellor Angela Merkel talked about this not long ago. The EU sanctions [on Russia] are not a hinder”.

    “I think that common sense advises us to explore the possibility of establishing a common economic space in the Eurasian region… We might think of a free trade zone encompassing all of the interested parties in Eurasia”.

    “Do you believe it is wise to spend so much political energy on a free trade zone with the USA while you have more natural partners at your side, closer to home? We don’t even chlorinate our chickens”, a reference to American food manufacturing processes.
    Russia Asks EU to Drop United States and Join 'Eurasian Union' - Breitbart

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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Can we put this Obama accomplishment of saving the US Dollar up there with his Nobel Peace Prize?
    yeah "up" as in where the sun don't ever shine
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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    not linked to Obama saving Western Ukraine
    Like I said folks, just believe the opposite

    The Kremlin saw Ukraine, the third biggest economy behind Kazakhstan and Russia in the Commonwealth of Independent States, a loose grouping of 11 former Soviet republics, as a vital member of the new union.

    But after Crimea was annexed by Russia in March last year and Moscow supported separatists in eastern Ukraine, the country's central bank chief, Valeriia Gontareva, summed up Kiev's position toward Moscow.

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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    yeah "up" as in where the sun don't ever shine
    Hate and loathing.

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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Like I said folks, just believe the opposite
    You're quote identifies Russia and former Soviet republics - Crimea annexed by Russia. Obama in a super man outfit isn't identified or linked. You're continued failure is amusing. Please continue.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You're quote identifies Russia and former Soviet republics - Crimea annexed by Russia.
    Qu Xing, China's ambassador to Belgium, was quoted by state news agency Xinhua late on Thursday as blaming competition between Russia and the West for the Ukraine crisis, urging Western powers to "abandon the zero-sum mentality" with Russia.

    He said the "nature and root cause" of the crisis was the "game" between Russia and Western powers, including the United States and the European Union.
    Chinese diplomat tells West to consider Russia's security concerns over Ukraine | Reuters

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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Where's the part where Obama saves Western Ukraine from Putin in that "root cause"? I looked at the article and found nothing - which is what I expected.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Where's the part where Obama saves Western Ukraine from Putin in that "root cause"?
    Do I have to draw pictures?

    As reported by the Financial Times, on Thursday, hours before meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told a news conference that the US is to prevent Russia from integrating more closely with its neighbors in Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

    “There is a move to re-Sovietise the region,” said the US Secretary of State. “It’s not going to be called that. It’s going to be called a customs union, it will be called Eurasian Union and all of that. But let’s make no mistake about it. We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it.”

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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    If the situation in Ukraine does not result in a military conflict between the U.S. and Russia, Obama will have successfully taken western Ukraine from Russian control. This combined with the crippling effects of the current sanctions that have been imposed against Russia, along with the huge decline in the price of oil means that Russia's Eurasian Union project has been stifled for a long time. The Eurasian project would have fused European and Russian resources into a formidable union that would rival the economic power of the U.S. and thus would have severely eroded though not entirely destroyed the power of the U.S. dollar. As such Obama may have saved the U.S. dollar.
    It is that old bugaboo from Vietnam political gimmickry, the "domino effect." The dominos have been falling neatly from Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Croatia, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia and OOPS, two of the pieces have fallen off of Ukraine and the NATO did not get it's complete domino. The backstabbing and chicanery involved have revealed the true nature of players using a more subliminal technique to this point. NATO's banks are aligned and all others likely become NATO's adversaries. A banking cartel "War of Choice" brought to the World by the Peace Prize President. The President has 60% of the World's money and 16% of the World's population and 16% of the World's resources in his corner, but the Central Bankers truly believe the Central Banker can control the World. Yes indeedy! Somebody got it goin' on, don't ya' know? Not to worry, those Saudi Arabian scumbags is on the Banker's side. Scumbag Wahabis , beheadin' dictatin' low lifes, but they our very own low lifes. Perhaps likes attract, or not?

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    Re: Did Obama save the dollar by taking western Ukraine from Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Do I have to draw pictures?
    You can make it in as big a font and as many colors as you want but it doesn't say what you claim it says.

    First your OP is based on a hypothetical, second you cannot connect the WH or Obama who you claim will save Western Ukraine "IF" the US and Russia do not come to direct conflict, based on the dollar. Other than making up stories I'm not sure what you hope to achieve.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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