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Thread: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

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    US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

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    US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    By Adam Johnson

    February 25, 2015 "ICH" - "Fair" - That the US is arming and training Syrian rebels has been well-documented for over two years, yet Western media have historically suffered from a strange collective amnesia when reporting this fact. As Ian Sinclair noted last September in the Huffington Post (9/23/14):

    • New York Times (5/4/13): "President [Obama] seems to be moving closer to providing lethal assistance to the Syrian rebels, even though he rejected such a policy just months ago."

    • Guardian (5/8/13): "The US, which has outlawed al-Nusra as a terrorist group, has hesitated to arm the FSA [Free Syrian Army]."…
    • New York Times (9/9/14): "Mr Obama has resisted military engagement in Syria for more than three years, out of fear early on that arming the rebels who oppose Mr. Assad would fail to alter the balance in the civil war."
    • BBC Today Programme (9/11/14), presenter Mishal Husein to US ambassador: "If you [the US] had helped the moderate Syrian opposition, the Free Syrian Army, three years ago, even two years ago, we might well not be in the position that we are now. President Obama's reluctance to intervene and to take action on Syria has contributed to what we are seeing now."
    • New York Times (5/4/13): "President [Obama] seems to be moving closer to providing lethal assistance to the Syrian rebels, even though he rejected such a policy just months ago."

    • Guardian (5/8/13): "The US, which has outlawed al-Nusra as a terrorist group, has hesitated to arm the FSA [Free Syrian Army]."…
    • New York Times (9/9/14): "Mr Obama has resisted military engagement in Syria for more than three years, out of fear early on that arming the rebels who oppose Mr. Assad would fail to alter the balance in the civil war."
    • BBC Today Programme (9/11/14), presenter Mishal Husein to US ambassador: "If you [the US] had helped the moderate Syrian opposition, the Free Syrian Army, three years ago, even two years ago, we might well not be in the position that we are now. President Obama's reluctance to intervene and to take action on Syria has contributed to what we are seeing now."

    Should we be arming Islamic rebels?.
    We've been doing this since 2012.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    We should stick to arming the drug cartels and let the Iranians and Russians arm the ME "moderates".
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    It's not forgotten by anyone, to be honest. I suppose this ties into more of your "theories."

    That said, I wish we hadn't inserted ourselves into that Syrian mess.
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    In mid-2012, the most influential newspaper in the world reported the US was helping to arm the rebels–a fact confirmed by subsequent stories in the New York Times itself, as well as numerous reports in other mainstream news outlets around the world
    Contrast this publicly available, easily accessed information with these summaries from the mainstream media of the ongoing US role in Syria…:

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    It's not forgotten by anyone, to be honest. I suppose this ties into more of your "theories."

    That said, I wish we hadn't inserted ourselves into that Syrian mess.
    Nothing like that. The article quotes newspaper headlines by reputable publications that state that the USA is not arming the rebels and they are the same papers that originally published the story that we are and have been arming those rebels. Now why would that be?

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Nothing like that. The article quotes newspaper headlines by reputable publications that state that the USA is not arming the rebels and they are the same papers that originally published the story that we are and have been arming those rebels. Now why would that be?
    And there's plenty that say the opposite, so where does that leave us?

    It's funny, it's almost as if the mainstream media are doing the tango around the facts to keep the informed public on the edge of their seats to get more hits on the internet, sell more papers, and sell more magazines.

    It's not a bad thing to bring up though on your part.
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Nothing like that. The article quotes newspaper headlines by reputable publications that state that the USA is not arming the rebels and they are the same papers that originally published the story that we are and have been arming those rebels. Now why would that be?

    Mornin DF. Because we have been arming them.....and it was reported that 3 times BO sent aid.


    Online videos show Syrian rebels using what appear to be U.S. anti-tank rockets, weapons experts say, the first significant American-built armaments in the country's civil war. None of that equipment, however, is seen as enough to turn the tide of battle in a now broadly stalemated war, with Assad dominant in Syria's central cities and along the Mediterranean coast and the rebels in the interior north and east. It was not possible to independently verify the authenticity of the videos or the supplier of the BGM-71 TOW anti-tank rockets shown in the videos. Some analysts suggested they might have been provided by another state such as Saudi Arabia, a U.S. ally, probably with Washington's acquiescence.

    U.S. officials declined to discuss the rockets, which appeared in Syria around the same time Reuters reported that Washington had decided to proceed with plans to increase aid, including delivery of lower-level weaponry.

    National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said the Obama administration was giving support she did not define. "The United States is committed to building the capacity of the moderate opposition, including through the provision of assistance to vetted members of the moderate armed opposition," she said in response to a query over the rocket videos.....snip~

    Rebel videos show first U.S.-made rockets in Syria

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    And there's plenty that say the opposite, so where does that leave us?

    It's funny, it's almost as if the mainstream media are doing the tango around the facts to keep the informed public on the edge of their seats to get more hits on the internet, sell more papers, and sell more magazines.

    It's not a bad thing to bring up though on your part.
    Is it because it can't be blamed on Bush that it must be denied at all cost?
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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We should stick to arming the drug cartels and let the Iranians and Russians arm the ME "moderates".
    Mornin Ttwtt. Well it didn't help with ISIS and at first Al Nusra.....just gangsterin the arms and weapons from the Syrian Rebel/Terrorists. We even had material up on Rebel commanders that wanted to bring sharia Law to Syria. That al nusra was the Rebels toughest fighting force. So they just told whoever to give them whatever. Which the Rebels did.

    Even had Syrian Rebels admit they were getting the Weapons from Libya. Especially the man-pads.

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    Re: US Backing for 'Moderate' Syrian Rebels: Long Reported, Continually Forgotten

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Ttwtt. Well it didn't help with ISIS and at first Al Nusra.....just gangsterin the arms and weapons from the Syrian Rebel/Terrorists. We even had material up on Rebel commanders that wanted to bring sharia Law to Syria. That al nusra was the Rebels toughest fighting force. So they just told whoever to give them whatever. Which the Rebels did.

    Even had Syrian Rebels admit they were getting the Weapons from Libya. Especially the man-pads.
    Many of the weapons and militants have joined up with IS. I presume it must be part of the plan, because our gov't has all the money and brainy people in the World working to solve/cause these problems for some geopolitical objective. The gist of the post is that in 2012 the Media was admitting we were arming Islamic Militants and then for several years after tries to deny/obfuscate that fact. Fer krissakes, these are news reporters, not amateurs. When you are being fed lies, they are part of an agenda. The fact that the lies come from the MSM should make one pause. Can the MSM be trusted on anything? I think not.

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